HELP IDing a mystery frame


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alexcraven

On Training Wheels
Oct 11, 2018
5
3
28
seattle, wa
#1
Picked this up as a trade for an even-rustier old Schwinn cruiser and now I'm trying to figure out what I have. I brought it to 3 local community bike shops and no one had any idea of the make or model, but agreed it was 'cool'.

I didn't get photos of a few other small clues: internal cable route ports through the top tube, and Tange dropouts.

Any ideas?

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non-fixie

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Jun 5, 2011
22
26
Yurp
#5
If it is Asian, the serial number format should enable us to narrow down the options considerably. If not tell us the maker. Can't see it clearly. 2A01788?

If so, the format matches Matsu&#!^a. Panasonic was/is their main own bicycle brand, but they also built frames for Schwinn, Centurion and Sekai.

EDIT: interesting auto-correct function. I was referring to Kōnosuke, of course.

EDIT #2: wow! The URL's are also auto-corrected! Final try: M a t s u s h i t a.
 
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alexcraven

On Training Wheels
Oct 11, 2018
5
3
28
seattle, wa
#6
If it is Asian, the serial number format should enable us to narrow down the options considerably. If not tell us the maker. Can't see it clearly. 2A01788?

If so, the format matches Matsu&#!^a. Panasonic was/is their main own bicycle brand, but they also built frames for Schwinn, Centurion and Sekai.

EDIT: interesting auto-correct function. I was referring to Kōnosuke, of course.

EDIT #2: wow! The URL's are also auto-corrected! Final try: M a t s u s h i t a.

Thanks, non-fixie! And yes, 2A01788 is the serial number.

Any way to narrow it down between schwinn, centurion, or sekai?
 

non-fixie

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Jun 5, 2011
22
26
Yurp
#7
You're welcome. It is an interesting frame you've got there. What puzzles me are the lugs. They are more baroque (and pretty, IMO) than anything I've seen so far on any of the brands associated with Matsus h i t a. But I'm not particularly knowledgeable when it comes to either Japanese bikes or anything made after 1980.

So, to answer your question: no, not by me anyway. The "2A" suggests it was made in early 1982 or early 1992. The pump thingy on the head tube and the internal cable routing make me think '92 is more likely.

I really like the frame, and I'd like to know what it is. :)

If you don't get any replies here, you might want to try a couple of other forums that harbour vintage bike lover communities.
 

juvela

Finally riding a big boys bike
Aug 2, 2014
287
379
Playa del Rey, United States
#9
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One possible serial decode would be a January 1992 birthdate.

IIRC the Sekai badge closed play prior to that.

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