Help with Chain Removal skip tooth

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T1Callahan

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 11, 2019
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Ok, I thought I would be able to figure this out, but since this is the first time removing a chain of any kind, I wanted to get some clarification before I start, and possibly break something. I need to remove the chain from a Skip tooth from a Hornet for maintenance and cleaning. I believe I have found the master link link, and I also have a brand new Park Tool CT 3.2 chain tool.
  1. The first issue is what direction should I be applying pressure from the pin of the park tool? there is a slightly longer side and a shorter side (see Photos).
  2. Does the pins on the chain link itself move out individually, or does the whole link with both pins have to move out as a whole and both sides have to move?
    1. It seems logical that they would have to come out separately, because otherwise I wouldn't think the tool would work, as the backside won't allow the whole link to move as its holding it in place.
  3. The Park tool shelf does not seem to fit a skip tooth. According to the directions, The shelf is supposed to go in the middle section of the chain, not on the outside, but its too wide to fit the narrower sections of the chain. It fits the standard chains just fine. Does this matter, or can I just use the shelf as support on the back side?
  4. How much pressure should I apply before I break something and am probably doing it wrong? In my experience, many times if Im applying a great deal of force, then Im probably doing it wrong and am probably breaking or about to break it. But Sometimes it just takes a good amount of force.

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T1Callahan

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 11, 2019
53
48
Socal
Just pull off the front plate of the link. The rest of the link will slide out as an assembly. You’ll ruin the master link with that tool.
Thanks, Glad I asked. But I am trying that now, and I can't pull it off with just regular pliers or deeds nose pliers. and tried a screw driver and a small flat head to wedge in there. It doesn't seem like it just pulls of. is there a good method of doing this so I won't mar the link?

Tom
 
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T1Callahan

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 11, 2019
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Ok, Finally was able to get it off. It was not going to use come off without some help and I was also inventing some new curse words. I ended up creating a wedge tool I could use to force with some pliers in between the plate and the link then twist to apply more pressure to pop it off and it finally worked, once I figured out how to do it. Though It would have been easier with 3 or four hands. Here are some photos of what I ended up using. Thanks for your help today. i would have screwed it up without your help. Mark, Morton and Salad shooter.
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SKPC

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Feb 2, 2018
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Ouch! Looks like the pins weren't bent towards each other enough. Looks like the plate got deformed prying it off.....:oops: Just take a hammer to it to flatten it out!!:rolleyes:
 
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T1Callahan

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 11, 2019
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Socal
Yea that was not mine, I wish. I did fold the chain like the video, and pushed in like the video, but it was fixed on there good. After degreasing it, there is some rust so maybe that wasn’t helping. The plate not bent and pins are straight from what I can see maybe the photo is distorted or angle is funny.
 

T1Callahan

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 11, 2019
53
48
Socal
these work great.

It is almost like they designed this tool to squeeze the chain links together so you can remove the master link with ease. ;)

probably why it is called a chain tool.

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Park tool has what they called Master Link Pliers, (MLP 1.2), but in the video where they demonstrate the use, the pliers are designed for a different kind of master link, where it slides in and out of a secure position. I would think these would probably bend the kind of link I have no?
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Archie Sturmer

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Jun 13, 2018
1,316
Los Angeles, CA, USA
It also helps to remove the rear wheel, (not clearly shown in first pictures), which provides much slack necessary to manipulate the chain by hand.
The only trouble that I have had in removing these 'hear-it-snap' master links is when someone has installed two or more in a row; after removing a first link, much of the chain leverage (measured in links of chain) goes away, (if one should need to remove more than one pair of links).
 
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tanksalot

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Nov 22, 2011
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Grab the chain on both sides of the master link and bend it so that the master link is in the middle of the bend. It will push the pins towards each other slightly so the clip (front side) will come off.
That’s what I was going to say he’s absolutely right.
 

Rivnut

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Nov 24, 2012
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About $9 online

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One hand on the tool, the other with a pair of needle nose pliers to slip the plate off.
 

pntrbl

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How I got to be 67 years old and never knew how to take a bicycle chain apart is beyond me. After seeing this thread I gave it a try on an old chain and popped it right off.

You could fill a book with what I don't know about bicycles.
 

1motime

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How I got to be 67 years old and never knew how to take a bicycle chain apart is beyond me. After seeing this thread I gave it a try on an old chain and popped it right off.

You could fill a book with what I don't know about bicycles.
My book of what I do not know can be volume 2
 
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