Help with ID!!! Arc Bar!!

[rustyspoke66]

This belongs to a friend of mine locally and we are trying to figure out what it is.
List of features.
-Headbadge screw holes = 3 the top two being the same height and bottom one centered.
-Seat stays look Schwinnish or many others
-Rear dropouts have no adjusters.
-Truss design is fits many manufactures like Schwinn and Westfield.
-Fork looks Westfield?
-Sprocket even looks a bit Westfield.
-Picture of serial number if that helps.

 

[rustyspoke66]

Ok the more I look around thing looks more Davis built and the headbadge screws seem to line up with a Yale type badge...

 

[hoofhearted]

Readers ... it is important that you ALSO read entry # 6 of this thread.

rustyspoke66 ... it's Miami-Built ... 1917 thru 1922 ... the seat stays are of the Miami-Built variety
that pinch in above that thick, Miami fender bridge. NOT ALL MIAMI-BUILT MACHINES PINCH-IN ABOVE
THAT FAT FENDER BRIDGE.

No rear-axel adjusters .. a Miami trait ... BUT NOT ALWAYS ....... SOME MIAMI-BUILT MACHINES DO HAVE
SCREW-TYPE AXEL ADJUSTERS.

Would like to see what the truss-area of the fork looks like from many (7+) points of view.

How about some close-up pics of joins made during frame construction.

FOTOS .. and plenty of them will help document what is what on these ever-changing, Miami-Built machines.

Merry Christmas To You, rustyspoke66 ! ! !

........... patric

Note Lack of Axel-Adjusters ... Note Pinch-In Area Of Upper Seat Stays .................

 

[rustyspoke66]

Very cool, i was very confused. I'll get more pictures this week and maybe a hint of the original color. Merry Christmas.

 

[catfish]

rustyspoke66 ... it's Miami-Built ... 1917 thru 1922 ... the s
FOTOS .. and plenty of them will help document what is what on these ever-changing, Miami-Built machines.
Note Lack of Axel-Adjusters ... Note Pinch-In Area Of Upper Seat Stays .................

Patric does it again !!!! More great info!

 

[hoofhearted]

Readers .. it is important that you ALSO read entry # 3 of this thread.

Well ... Hold up there, Catfish !!! My eye placed a 'bead' on that frame, yesterday ...
but some consideration needs to be given toward that fork .. as it DOES appear in
the foto with that frame.

This typer really has very-little experience in the i.d.-ing of anything Miami related.

Miami Cycle & Manuf. Co. typically produces much variation in "their" fenders ..their
forks .. their built-in chain adjusters .. or the 'lack' there-of .. their frame lugging ...
their trumpet-mouth joins .. their fender-roll edging .. and now THIS TRUSS FORK !!!

Although the 'upper-trusses going to a single-termination point' variety SEEMS to
be the most heavily-assigned fork of the Miami truss-forks ... dual-termination top points
have been noted.

And now .. we are peepin' a fork that apparently has removable trusses .. one foto does
not capture the lower-truss termination points ... that area is not included in the overall
foto .... and the other foto ... has those removable truss forks totally removed.

Usually .. if i make a bicycle discovery ...'this' happens .. and 'that' happens .. and i hear
a bell ring.

But today .. apparently .. i am deaf .. dumb and blind ... and FAR From Playing a "mean pinball".

Merry Christmas To You ALL !!!!

........... patric

 

[chitown]

How about the serial numbers placement/alignment? I thought Miami was similar to Davis in going around the BB (front to back?) instead of across (left to right) like this one shows.

What are the original colors under the repaint?

 

[hoofhearted]

chitown ... these fotos were posted in (my) entry # 51 of the
"Anyone Own A Miami Flying Merkel Bicycle ?"

Except for this one instance of front to back stamping on a Miami-Built ..
(like a Davis serial stamping) ... ALL OTHER Miami-Built rides have been
observed to have pedal to pedal serial stampings.

............... patric

 

[rustyspoke66]

Ok, Here are more pictures. This has many, many signs of Miami but the headbadge is the most elusive at this point. The badge looks to have left a impression so I will try to get some better pics of that. This bike is in the next state over so I have to wait for pictures.

 

[hoofhearted]

rustyspoke66 ... wow ... those are some great fotos you snapped of your arch-bar !!

That E-Z Off Truss feature has me stymied ...... Westfield ?? .. Miami ?? .. Westfield / Miami ???

.............. patric

.... how about a good shot of the bottom of the fork legs and bottom of the truss-rods .. ?? ..........