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Looks like a ladies Murray to me. Not Westfield.Next up may be this Westfield made Derby ladies bike. Or a cool Hercules popular.
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I am now fully nuts, I switched to BMW bikes and compared to the BSA's I have too much free time now!
Looks but Derby is on the Westfield list of badge names. I also thought at first Derby was Murray made. They were all copying each other pretty close back then. From an online site....Looks like a ladies Murray to me. Not Westfield.
Derby is not a Westfield specific badge. It is a bike sold at Pep Boys. Stores & shops would regularly have several bike manufacturers build bikes for them & attach the shop's badge. Similar to Sears who had Elgin bikes made by Westfield, Murray & Monark. There were others early on. This bike pictured is most definitely Murray built.Looks but Derby is on the Westfield list of badge names. I also thought at first Derby was Murray made. They were all copying each other pretty close back then. From an online site....
"The Westfield Manufacturing Co. of Westfield, MA has origins dating back to 1877 with the founding of the Pope Manufacturing Co. Many brands were manufactured under Westfield but their in-house brand was Columbia. Westfield bought many bicycle companies such as Miami who made the Flying Merkel, and Racycle among others. Some of the most desirable balloon tire bikes ever made were produced by Westfield for Sears under the Elgin brand to include the Bluebird, Skylark, and Robin. Westfield was also the primary contractor for making bicycles for Hendee/Indian Motocycle Co. until World War II. The company enjoyed postwar success but like other American companies succumbed to imports and production cost and ceased operations in 1987.
Badges: Columbia, Westfield, Elgin, Corsair, Seminole, Indian, Viking, Tribune, Derby, Fleetwing, Imperial, Crescent, Flying Merkel, Racycle, Sterling, Stormer, Rambler, Waverly"
How's that? It was never stated that these badges were specific only to Westfield build bikes...I think this site VintageAmericanCycles needs to do more research just like Wiki most websites have fake info these days. LOL!
https://vintageamericanbicycles.com/index.php/company-histories/
Not a forum fighter but they omitted Derby at that site in Murray description so who is right in a world on fake history footnotes I guess. This hobby has opinions just like the vintage motorcycle forums I see. LOL! Most people don't believe it took Canadian workers to produce the first electric start Indian motorcycle inHow's that? It was never stated that these badges were specific only to Westfield build bikes...
@Freqman1
Not a forum fighter but they omitted Derby at that site in Murray description so who is right in a world on fake history footnotes I guess. This hobby has opinions just like the vintage motorcycle forums I see. LOL! Most people don't believe it took Canadian workers to produce the first electric start Indian motorcycle in
Ontario my pal owns one and a Pope, so maybe Westfield farmed out the design to Murray?
Steve