Hiawatha "what is it" question

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MULE SKINNER

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 14, 2018
34
Oklahoma
Picked this jewel up a while back and have just now gotten around to putting it on the stand and looking it over real good.I know it's a Hiawatha cause the badge says so (genius me right?).It has some numbers stamped on the bottom of the badge (45 WGG 24 1057).There are also some numbers on the bottom of the BB shell (A58957 540),serial numbers I assume.Other than that I don't know diddle squat about it.It does have horizontal dropouts with chain tensioners.The red pain on top looks like it was lovingly applied with a mop.It has silver underneath it showing through the various scratches.I got the matching forks with it along with some fenders and a rear rack but I'm not sure they are original to the frame.Any help with more precise i.d. would be appreciated.I was kinda thinking of making a track racer type of bike out of it,just bolt on mods.Thanks for any help.

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MULE SKINNER

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 14, 2018
34
Oklahoma
1954, built by Cleveland Welding. Post pics of the other parts and I can tell you if they are correct.
Thanks.I'll try to get some pics of the other parts tomorrow posted tomorrow.Can I ask how you deciphered the info to figure out it was a '54 made by Cleveland Welding?
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
19,255
Evans, GA
The "54" and the "C" which, if stamped better would have a small "w" in it as shown in the pic (1952) below. V/r Shawn

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Archie Sturmer

I live for the CABE
Jun 13, 2018
1,301
Los Angeles, CA, USA
The '54 bike may also be known as an AMF.
In later years, these bikes had the horizontal rear drop-outs (shown), and a wedge-type seat post (separate clamp not shown).
 
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MULE SKINNER

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 14, 2018
34
Oklahoma
The "54" and the "C" which, if stamped better would have a small "w" in it as shown in the pic (1952) below. V/r Shawn

Roadmaster serial ex.jpg
Cool,thanks for the info.I'm always trying to learn about these old bikes and you've helped.
 

MULE SKINNER

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 14, 2018
34
Oklahoma
The '54 bike may also be known as an AMF.
In later years, these bikes had the horizontal rear drop-outs (shown), and a wedge-type seat post (separate clamp not shown).
I think this bike had a wedge type seat post as there are two small "slits" in the top of the seat post but not long enough for a compression type clamp as they are only about 1/8" deep.Thanks for the info.
 

ratina

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 21, 2009
919
Westmont, IL
The wedge type seatpost came a couple years after this. This frame takes a solid 5/8 post. You are missing the seat post clamp.
 
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MULE SKINNER

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 14, 2018
34
Oklahoma
The wedge type seatpost came a couple years after this. This frame takes a solid 5/8 post. You are missing the seat post clamp.
Right on.I was just going by the size of the "slits" in the top of the seat post tube.It's cool either way as I intend to fabricate a "laid back" seat post for it.I'll either find a clamp that works or make one.Good info,thank you.
 

Archie Sturmer

I live for the CABE
Jun 13, 2018
1,301
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Frame looks stubby, even on a real computer, is it a 24” - we see a 24 in the badge serial number.

Hiawatha bikes were sold by Gambles stores.
 
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MULE SKINNER

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 14, 2018
34
Oklahoma
Frame looks stubby, even on a real computer, is it a 24” - we see a 24 in the badge serial number.

Hiawatha bikes were sold by Gambles stores.
When I got it,it had a set of cobbled up 26" wheels with it.I don't think they were original to the bike as they had painted hoops that look ed like the rims on my '58 Tornado.I know they were jacked with because they were full of loose,mismatched spokes.Some of the spokes were bottomed out and still not tight.Just a real mess on the wheel side of it all.I did however put a 27 x 1 1/4" driver in the back and it fit with lots of room to spare.I had to change the forks out as the originals were roached.I happened to have a set of tubular forks from a 70's era road bike (27" also) that fit the neck just right.I guess you can see where this is going.I'm gonna try to "mock" it up this weekend and will post some pictures of it.I also got a rack and front/rear fenders with it and need to post some pics of that stuff too.
 
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