Huffman: Firestone Supreme Streamline Help Needed Please!

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  1. #21 Posted Aug 31, 2017

    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    Nice forensic work, Brant!
     
  2. #22 Posted Aug 31, 2017

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Looking good Brantley, nice looking bike!
     
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  3. #23 Posted Sep 1, 2017

    I live for the CABE

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    Bike looks real good sound keeper for sure
     
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    I live for the CABE

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    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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  7. #27 Posted Sep 6, 2017

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Thanks Marty for posting the Hull Compass advertisement.

    I have been corrected about my chain guard theory. Apparently there has never been an original Firestone guard found in chrome. It has been suggested the guard was stamped from "pre-plated" metal sheeting. Has anyone else seen an original Firestone guard with a similar treatment? The below girls bike, in original paint, has plating exposed on its' guard. The difference: chrome was an option on the crow's beak guard; possibly it was painted over at the factory to satisfy an order?

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  8. #28 Posted Sep 13, 2017

    I live for the CABE

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    Amazing bike brant! Love the color!
     
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  9. #29 Posted Sep 15, 2017

    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    Please explain how you removed the other layers of paint, but left the original pain in such nice shape! Thanks in advance!
     
  10. #30 Posted Sep 15, 2017

    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    That should read paint, even though I'm sure it was a pain!
     
  11. #31 Posted Sep 16, 2017

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    I used "Everclear" grain alcohol on the removal. Everclear is available in different proofs depending on your state; in New Mexico it is 190 proof. It doesn't work with all paint binders; I have used Goof-off and acetone as well depending on the paint. Denatured alcohol should work the same at the Everclear but they add toxic stuff so you can't drink it; I have noticed a haze residue with denatured alcohol on art pieces so I stopped using it years ago. With the alcohol, you can add small amounts of water to cut-it if its "too hot" and removing your base coat you are trying to save. With this bike the maroon is pretty stable but the original white decorative elements are very fragile.

    I work small areas at a time with small pieces of cotton cloth ( 3 by 3 inches, folding in half and then large postage stamp size for the final removal): t-shirt for the removal of the top layers of paint, terry-cloth towel for the final layer. You want the cloth pieces to be wet but not dripping. Sometimes it will take many seconds for the overpaint binders to "relax" and start coming off so you should not give up if you do not see results immediately. Try test spots with to see what solvent works best. Once the cloth is covered in paint discard it immediately and use a new one. Be very careful with pin stripes as they are typically very fragile and hard to save. Once down to final over-layer I use the smaller cloth pieces and just wipe usually once pulling away from the exposed original paint; discard cloth with removed pigments and use a new one every sweep!

    With some bikes you can remove most of the overpaint rather quickly but the final layer and detail cleaning will take hours to do well. Patience and working small areas cannot be stressed enough! With this bike the green and cherry red overpaint is adhering to any bare metal spots better than areas were the original paint is intact. I still have a lot of work that needs to be done at these spots. I have experience removing overpaint off antique furniture and art objects but I am stilling learning on bikes. Any input from others would be appreciated.

    Good luck!
     
  12. #32 Posted Sep 17, 2017

    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    It scares me to think I drank that stuff in high school, and now I'm going to use it to remove paint!
     
  13. #33 Posted Sep 17, 2017

    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    Cool looking house!
     
  14. #34 Posted Sep 19, 2017

    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    Hello Brant. Brady here. I just found this thread. The frameset is looking great. Love the original paint. I'm glad I sold it to you. The Firestones are awesome looking bikes. I got the bike off of the original owners son. His dad had this bike, and he rode a mid 50s Schwinn. I asked him if it had a Tank at one time, but he couldn't remember. The son was probably in his 50s. The bike came out of New Castle, PA.
     
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  15. #35 Posted Sep 19, 2017

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Get a load of this. I hope you like 'em.

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  16. #36 Posted Sep 20, 2017

    Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline

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    Great looking bikes but none of those are Firestone's. For those looking to find out more about Huffman built bikes including Firestone, National, Dayton, Airflyte, etc... I suggest you pick up a copy of the book Scott published earlier this year. It contains a wealth of information about these bikes. V/r Shawn
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/All-NEW-HUF...988737?hash=item440b28a341:g:DV8AAOSw3YJZOtuD
     
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  17. #37 Posted Sep 20, 2017

    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    Wow, can't belive it's the same bike! Your magic is unbelievable. Thank you very much for sharing your tips. I haven't taken on a project like that before and hope to use your techniques one day. I learned a lot from your post!