Huffman serial number project

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  1. #1 Posted Jul 20, 2007

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    Hi, This post is going to be for keeping track of the serial numbers of Huffman made bicycles. I will try to keep up with editing this post and updating the list. Hopefully this will help develop a basis for dating these bikes where none has existed before.The second post will have the list please feel free to post your numbers and a photo if you can or e-mail them to me and I will add them to the list. check back often and feel free to copy this information.
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    Huffman Serial Number List


    Underscore _ Indicates numbers or letters under the main serial number


    20995 = 1934-5 Model D-4 Dayton (Sensor)
    44052 = 1936 Firestone Fleetwood Standard (37Fleetwood)
    86303 = 1936-7 D-2E Superstreamliner (37Fleetwood)
    87979_2 1937 D-1T Superstreamliner (37Fleetwood)
    92469_3 1937-8 National Superstreamliner (supper15fiets)

    1624_HCW = 1941 ??? (ejlwheels)
    2959FBH_8 = 1937-8 Firestone Fleetwood Supreme (Mr.J.C.Higgins)
    5937 = 1937-8 Firestone Fleetwood Supreme (Oldbikes)
    H16061_CP866 = Firestone Fleetwood Supreme (easywind)

    H5008 = 1941 ??? (ejlwheels)
    H5608_2 = 1937-8 Firestone Fleetwood Supreme (shutterbugKELLY)
    W6478_5 = 1937 Western Flyer mens (ejlwheels)

    H10678 = 1943 ??? (ejlwheels)
    A14449_3 = 1939 LaFrance model 51 Special Line (bentwoody66)
    B18020_8 = 1930s National (Flat Tire)
    H20062_3 = 1937-8 Firestone Fleetwood Supreme (37Fleetwood)
    B20138 = 1940 Belknap Hardware Store (shutterbugKELLY)
    H21732_1 = 1937-8 Firestone Fleetwood Supreme (Aeropsycho)
    HW23744 = 1937 Western Flyer (37Fleetwood)
    677_D50158_1942 = 1942 Military frame (ejlwheels)
    A80304 = 1937 Airflyte (37Fleetwood)
    H4???8 = Huffman Airflyte Twin-Flex (shutterbugKELLY)

    108762_2 = 1938 Firestone Supreme Twin Flex (easywind)
    1967FAH_2 = 1939 Firestone Flying Ace (37Fleetwood)
    4114FAH_1_Z8 = 1939 Firestone Supreme Twin Flex (37Fleetwood)
    4568FAH_1 = 1939 Firestone Flying Ace (easywind)
    7820FAH = 1939 Firestone Flying Ace (easywind)
    9454FAH_7 = 1939 Firestone Supreme Twin Flex (easywind)

    N_102578_2 = 1939 National? Twinflex (ejlwheels)
    H119535 = 1943 ??? straight downtube, curved fender mount (ejlwheels)
    H126782 = 1943 ??? straight downtube, curved fender mount (ejlwheels)
    H321448 = 1939 (ejlwheels)
    H413022 = 1943 - 1948 Dayton (ejlwheels)
    H429170 = 1944 Dayton Civillian Transport Bicycle (37Fleetwood)
    H471477 = 1941 ??? (ejlwheels)


    14403_C = 1941-42 Dayton Mainliner (joyofravenclaw)
    22261HBW = 1941 Western Flyer (37Fleetwood)
    23664B_N = 1940 girls Twin Flex (easywind)
    24839C = 1941 Dayton (37Fleetwood)
    24873C = 1942 Firestone Pilot (37Fleetwood)
    3551D = 194? Ever Best (Aeropsycho)
    59711C = 1942 Dixie Flyer (37Fleetwood)
    62637_C = 1941 Huffman National (Flat Tire)
    76639_C = 1941 Huffman Top Flight (37Fleetwood)
    48894_C = 1941 Huffman made mens (easywind)
    63484_C = 1941 Huffman made mens (easywind)

    225375C = 1944 Dayton (37Fleetwood)
    8#27182 = 1944-48 Huffman frame (Aeropsycho)

    7H052211 = 1947 Firestone Pilot (easywind)
    7H081156 = 1947 Gambles Hiawatha (ejlwheels)
    7H298597 = 1947 Dixie Flyer (unit5alive)
    8H035665 = 1948 Firestone (37Fleetwood)
    8H013431 = 1948 Huffman (37Fleetwood)
    9H066645 = 1949 Huffman Deluxe Special (Ratpick)
    0H035336 = 1950 ??? (ejlwheels)
    1h140560 = 1951 Huffman girls (easywind)
    4H121354 = 1954 Huffy Customliner (37Fleetwood)
    4H144429 = 1954 ??? (ejlwheels)
    4H729841 = 24" Boys Huffy Customliner (???)
    5H617730 = 1955 Huffy Radio Bike (easywind)
    6H203--- = 1956 Hyffy Mainliner (vrod)
    7H210901 = 1957 Belknap (
    7H486907 = 1957 ??? (ejlwheels)
    8H628317 = 1958 Dayton (Flat Tire)
    3H218663 = 1963 Firestone 500


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    Photos and Serial Section
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    sounds neat! can you post a photo? I've always wanted one like that. 1941 had the light on the fender 1940 had them in the tank.
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  5. #5 Posted Jul 24, 2007

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    exactly right that is the photo of the cover of the 1941 Huffman catalog, the book is by John Polizzi and is worth it though most of the pages are black & white. if you ever want to sell it let me know I think those are the most beautiful bike ever made. does yours have the springer? if it is a Dayton it would be a Mainliner, the Huffman version was the Champion.

    also for the rest of you guys, I have updated the serial list recently, check it out!

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  6. #6 Posted Jul 27, 2007

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    Ok, I updated again! there's good news and bad news.:D

    some problems are showing up prewar, either the numbers are crazy from the factory or some of the guesses are wrong. this is where photos would help if you have them. I got a photo for what was thought to be a 1941 which has the same seat binder clamp, and rear drop outs as the war time and later bikes (1943-1948). Also numbers for bikes with straight down tubes which is usually though not always 1937-40 and the numbers fit more with the 1939 known bikes (hard to miss a Twin-Flex as being 1938-39) though the bikes have curved fender mounts. we're getting good results don't stop now, we're just getting started!!

    Good news for post war stuff, it seems that the first number, the one before the letter is indicative of the year. 1 would indicate 1951 or possibly 1961, while 8 would be 1948 or 1958 or 1968. we don't have any later bikes to know when this numbering changes. the decade is usually easy enough to figure out by just looking at the bike itself. also all of these so far have the letter "H".
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    Hi, I've updated the list with Marc's (easywind) bikes. I wasn't sure if you guys with the 20" bikes wanted them on the list so I havent added them yet. let me know. thanx again Marc!:D
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    another update! I added bentwoody66's 1939 La France. neat bike! also out of respect I only add the serials if you ask, I don't want to upset anyone who doesn't want theirs used.
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    you've been added!:D
    please guys add your numbers, don't just use the list add to it!
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    ok another update! I added Mikes Flying Ace which poses an interesting theory. in 1939 aparently Firestone bikes have FAH after the four digit serial numberfollowed by a number underneath. which brings up an interesting question about Marc's Twin-Flex. Marcs bike has the standard Huffman/Dayton paint scheme. Marc's bike is also a 1938. Marc's bike doesn't have FAH, and Marc's bike has a different numbering sequence than the other 1939 Firestones! so... marc's bike wasn't originally a Firestone or... 1938's didn't have FAH, and or 1938 didn't use the Firestone paint scheme. my guess is that somewhere along the way Marc's bike had a headbadge swap and isn't a Firestone ( which probably raises it's value a miniscule amount as most of the others seem to be Firestones)
    thanks for looking! keep sending in numbers:D
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    very cool story Marc! I wonder if it was a replacement for a Deathbike style bike to get people to buy the new version. again it sounds like it may be that Huffman pulled this bike from the Huffman or Dayton line and badged it special for this purpose. this kinda makes your bike special, not only for it's condition but for it's uniqueness.
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    P.S. I'll add your Flying Ace! there should be a number under the serial number (also notice the FAH:) )
     
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    your bike is definitely a 1949, do you want me to add you to the list?
    here's the head badge
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    here's a copy of the catalog from 1948.
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  14. #14 Posted Jul 28, 2008

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    what badge does this one have?
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    Update!!
    A few additions to the list. a nice 1949 with a decal headbadge, a new one on me! most have actual badges. very cool bike!
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  16. #16 Posted Jul 29, 2008

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    my bad, I guess I should learn how to read huh?:D I have seen the badges but you could add it if you think it would help others.
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  17. #17 Posted Aug 7, 2008

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    ok I would say W for Western that's simple enough, frame characteristics such as dropouts with dropstand tabs which stopped in 1938 with the arrival of the kick stand, the straight down tube, the early Western badge puts it at 1937. the serial falls into the list right next to shutterbugKELLY's 1937 Fleetwood Supreme. so I am going with 1952... just kidding I'm going with 1937. I saw that frame, it was listed with a slightly earlier Fleetwood frame of a very similar style. did you buy both? $50.00 was a fair price. when done it should look basically like most Huffmans of that vintage. you might look at shutterbugKELLY's Belknap as a basic reference. some parts will be slightly different but overall they are very similar. here's the page from the 1937 National catalog. again due to the National being a top level bike and the Western being a Huffman level bike it will only be similar, the paint patterns will definitely be different and some parts will be upgraded on the National. I have the paint pattern for the Westerns if you want to go original. need I ask, do you want it added?
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    does that mean that you got the other frame??:D
    the big hole is for a different headbadge. some people call them a bottlecap style, there is a small insert attached to the back of the badge which when inserted into the hole is crimped to the bike. no screws or pins.
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    good luck finding a streamliner, especially the one with the curved rear stays if that is what you are referring to. actually they were made in 1937 like the Firestones with the straight stays. reliable sources have it that there are only around 8-10 around. there are probably a bit more but still very hard to find.
    here are some poor photos of the "bottle cap" style badges. the National is the only one I have a photo of the back of the badge and even then the crimp is missing, but you can see the outline of where it used to be.
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    sorry i didn't realize i didn't get around to getting the date to the girls bike. yes i would think it is a 1947. it has the new postwar serial sequence and cannot be a 1957 since the rear drop outs though still rear facing are very different on the '50's bikes. this indeed leaves 1947. as to the chainring it may be a late 1947 bike or the ring may have come out slightly earlier than you think. I have a photo of another 1947 with the same ring. the other bike is a boys Western Flyer. I'll add both bikes:D
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