going over some old Posts on Harley bicycles and I found the brochure for 1918 Motorcyke and thought I would be reading the same thing I have for years but......I always read Motorcykes' saddles as Troxel number 2 saddle but there it is in black and white print "Troxel 1 motorbike" the larger one .....I would have lost my shirt betting all were Troxel 2 saddles . I need to read more carefully in the future I guess.