Identify my J Motor Whizzer Frame?

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Risk Man

'Lil Knee Scuffer
I Recently aquired a J Motor restored whizzer from an estate of a gentleman Named Roland in Richlandtown PA. (in case someone here may have been familiar with the bike or its professional restoration). The motor has a J-XXXXXX Serial number but the frame has such a deep paint job that I have not found the frame ID yet. I have not scraped the paint off the bottom bracket yet. It is a 24 inch wheel bike. The frame has some interesting but strange characteristics including a welded on seat clamp but it is located UNDER the cantilever with a nearly non-existent seat tube above (the clutch spring camp is there). The extended brake arm is a welded on attachment and the crank is skip-tooth but unlike others of the period. The left crank arm has a dog leg as well. The badge is a silver "Spritfire". It has a 9 hole rear rack. I have found Schwinn S-2 markings on the front rim, but can not locate them on the rear. the front hub is "standard". AS. Let me know what other details will help.

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Goldenrod

I live for the CABE
If you send me your address our Illinois newsletter club will send you free stuff: T shirt (need size?) DVD of Whizzers on TV, instruction book, and Lisa of Memory Lane may be selling a Whizzer history book to go with the bike by Willard Larson. No obligation with our stuff --these documents should go with any Whizzer for the next generation. PM me if you want a package --free shipping.
 

Risk Man

'Lil Knee Scuffer
If you send me your address our Illinois newsletter club will send you free stuff: T shirt (need size?) DVD of Whizzers on TV, instruction book, and Lisa of Memory Lane may be selling a Whizzer history book to go with the bike by Willard Larson. No obligation with our stuff --these documents should go with any Whizzer for the next generation. PM me if you want a package --free shipping.
Yes, I am new... but not to forums of this format. I don't see how I am able to send private messages to members?
 

CURTIS L LINDGREN

I live for the CABE
Click on the persons name , ( Highlighted in Blue ) you'll see a box that says " Start a private conversation" . It brings up another page directly to converse with them . I think the chainring is from another brand.............Columbia maybe ?? Also it may be a girls chainring as the diameter looks smaller than a Men's chainring would be. Maybe for ease of starting the bike ? Nice bike by the way!
 

Risk Man

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Click on the persons name , ( Highlighted in Blue ) you'll see a box that says " Start a private conversation" . It brings up another page directly to converse with them . I think the chainring is from another brand.............Columbia maybe ?? Also it may be a girls chainring as the diameter looks smaller than a Men's chainring would be. Maybe for ease of starting the bike ? Nice bike by the way!
Hello Curtis and thanks for the info. I expect to see the "start private conversation", but it does not appear. I will email the forum gurus and see if there is some restriction on my profile since I am new. I would expect this frame / bike has many combined parts. Much of it does not add up from my research so the chainring could be from another MFG. I have not disassembled anything yet and I don't see any markings on the outside, but I really have not "gotten underneath" the bike yet only to replace the front bearings I had the front end up on the air.
 

CURTIS L LINDGREN

I live for the CABE
@Risk Man , The reason you may not be able to do a "Private conversation" might be that you haven't been on the site long enough or have enough posts. I seem to remember others having the same issue. You can find parts here for sale. I'm sure there are many styles of chain rings and crank arms you'd like . I personally like the Schwinn Sweetheart chain rings . I think your bike would look good with one of those ( larger diameter of course ) 🤓 Your bike looks like it was done very nicely ( as in ..............someone really cared about it ) I think you have a great start there. When you do get in touch with @Goldenrod he would be a great contact as I believe he's been dealing with whizzers for a long time and has great knowledge on those bikes. 😁 I really like the way your tank looks with the pinstriping done in that fashion. Hang onto that one ................it's a keeper ! -Curt-
 

Risk Man

'Lil Knee Scuffer
@Risk Man , The reason you may not be able to do a "Private conversation" might be that you haven't been on the site long enough or have enough posts. I seem to remember others having the same issue. You can find parts here for sale. I'm sure there are many styles of chain rings and crank arms you'd like . I personally like the Schwinn Sweetheart chain rings . I think your bike would look good with one of those ( larger diameter of course ) 🤓 Your bike looks like it was done very nicely ( as in ..............someone really cared about it ) I think you have a great start there. When you do get in touch with @Goldenrod he would be a great contact as I believe he's been dealing with whizzers for a long time and has great knowledge on those bikes. 😁 I really like the way your tank looks with the pinstriping done in that fashion. Hang onto that one ................it's a keeper ! -Curt-
Curt, I am guessing you are correct... still on training wheels. Thanks for the feedback on the bike. I bought it from 1200 miles away from 3 pictures.... The seller only had it a year and did nothing with it.... "Did not try and run it, I am not mechanical... bought it at an estate auction".... Found the original / previous owner on documents with the bike as the seller never got the title. I have written to PA DMV for historic copies as I know it was registered as late as 2014. That said, I am sure the owner paid $$$$ to someone to cobble this bike together with good components, (The paint job is really deep) but obviously not all correct to the Schwinn it mimics. I have much work to do and looking forward to continuing to retore it along with my 2004 NE5 Whizzer rider and the 2 strokes I have been building.
 

coryplayford_2009

Finally riding a big boys bike
If you send me your address our Illinois newsletter club will send you free stuff: T shirt (need size?) DVD of Whizzers on TV, instruction book, and Lisa of Memory Lane may be selling a Whizzer history book to go with the bike by Willard Larson. No obligation with our stuff --these documents should go with any Whizzer for the next generation. PM me if you want a package --free shipping.

I’m new to the whizzer crowd I just picked up this ‘48 J I’d be interested in the newsletter!
Thanks
-CP

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Risk Man

'Lil Knee Scuffer
If you send me your address our Illinois newsletter club will send you free stuff: T shirt (need size?) DVD of Whizzers on TV, instruction book, and Lisa of Memory Lane may be selling a Whizzer history book to go with the bike by Willard Larson. No obligation with our stuff --these documents should go with any Whizzer for the next generation. PM me if you want a package --free shipping.
Goldenrod, if you will send me a PM, I will be able to reply with my contact information. I cannot start one yet. Thanks.
 
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