I'm not in favor of rat bikes!


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cyclingday

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 24, 2008
5,058
12,937
Costa Mesa, California. United States
I just finished looking through all 38 pages of the Drag King Raceliner thread over at the Rat Rod Build off #9.
If you haven't seen it yet, do yourself a huge favor and check it out.
Most of these tend to be total rats or total customs, with not much room in between.
This one really captures the essence of what the bike was, and what the bike has become, from its original theme concept through its evolution.
Absolutely, outstanding!
 

kingfish254

Finally riding a big boys bike
Sep 20, 2009
351
259
Historic Savannah, GA
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hoofhearted

Saint Lactose The Tolerant
Jan 20, 2010
3,418
4,012
Fairborn, Ohio
Ok all of you hibernating rat rod members who’ve been asleep for the last 4 months! The Rat Rod Build Off 9 has finished and it’s time to reengage and cast your vote. This year the talent pool was amazing; check ‘em out, http://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/in...ial-rrb-build-off-9-finished-bike-list.85067/ Take a minute and Vote if you haven’t already.


Wow-Wee-Wow-Wow .... an amazing selection of machines built
thru creativity and craftsmanship - all.

Enigma ... #28 is my choice.

In a design-league of it's own, while displaying attention to detail, not only
in the manner of fabrication ... but also being very respectful to a classic frame -
everything about the machine is built to 'bolt-on' ... and 'bolt-off' ... should
the bicycle ever want to revert to it's original, mid-30's identity.

Very, Very NICE, Carlton (fordsnake) !!!!!!!!!!



.......................... patric cafaro


post script ... I spent some time on that RatRod site tryin' to figure how to
place a vote, and even became a member.

Looked everywhere but in the correct area. If I figure out how to vote .. I will.

If anyone here knows how to cast a vote at that RatRod site ... let us know, please. THANKS !!!!


The following are a few of the fotos posted at that RatRod site for Entry #28 ... Enigma


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hillbilly_handshake

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Aug 20, 2014
10
0
What is considered a "rat" bike? The reason I ask is this. I'm working on motorizing a 1956 Roadmaster boys' frame. Now, I'm building from a completely care frame, no original parts I know of, save possibly the French seat post and headset bearing cups, though not sure at all. I'm using parts that I want to use, including building my own wheels. I am painting the frame black, not because everyone else does, but because it's my favorite color. The gas tank and the cable sheaths will be orange. But when I think of a rat, I think of a bike that is purposefully made to look crappy. And that's not an insult to rat bikes or those who build them, I mean that in the most artistic way possible. There is a lot of artistic media that is "purposefully crappy". All I'm saying is, I'm building my bike to look nice, it might even be a show piece. I'm not restoring the bike to any sort of original condition, but I'm trying to make it as nice as possible and with this being a motorized vehicle, my focus is primarily on functionality. So where does everyone draw the line?
 

bike

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 26, 2007
4,795
1,091
Bicycleland
To me

What is considered a "rat" bike? ... But when I think of a rat, I think of a bike that is purposefully made to look crappy. And that's not an insult to rat bikes or those who build them, I mean that in the most artistic way possible. There is a lot of artistic media that is "purposefully crappy". All I'm saying is, I'm building my bike to look nice, it might even be a show piece. I'm not restoring the bike to any sort of original condition, but I'm trying to make it as nice as possible and with this being a motorized vehicle, my focus is primarily on functionality. So where does everyone draw the line?
Your bike would be full on custom. Ratrods and bikes are anything but started as making it look like the way a person of limited means
would have done it back in the day or mimicing a boardtrack racer- they were rough and ready- street rods were super expesive chrome paint etc and not at all how it was done

crappy is in the eye of the beholder- homebuilt and used can be a beautiful thing. That said a lot of crappy things are built to take advantage of the rat market.
 
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williamlee111

On Training Wheels
Sep 20, 2014
2
0
Vancouver, Wa. USA
www.fvaea.com
Boy! I'm new to this site, and I thought everyone here liked bikes. I mean all kinds of bikes like I do. Maybe not. If I knew this was going to be a Concourse d Elegance bike website, I might not have joined. If I go to a swap meet, and see a bare frame without a fork laying in the dirt for 40 bucks, I'm buying it and building what ever I want. I mean I have a rescued Chicago Schwinn date of Thursday, May 26th, 1960, built between 10:00 and 10:15 Am. It has Collegiate green paint that an automotive paint shop matched up for me, but it doesn't have fenders. It has a Chinese crank, and bars, and eBay decals. A buddy told me once, "You rescued a Chicago Schwinn frame and fork from the scrappers. Well done." Well, sheesh, maybe not if you read some of the posts here. I thought I was doing a good thing.







Is about custom bikes and that's why the poster put his post here. He is entitled to his opinion as you are to yours. I would suggest maybe checking out the gallery on ratrodbikes and see what some of these guys are doing. I think you'll find a lot more than satin black paint and 144 spoke wheels. I think it would do some people good to remember that bicycles were created to be ridden, enjoyed and well used and not sit as part of some dusty collection of a person who sees only their monetary value. I'm not saying you're guilty of this or anyone else on this site is (I've met some wonderful people)
I'm thinking that if our old bicycles could talk, they tell you of the wonderful times they've had...from the morning they were received by a happy child to the many adventures they shared. I'm also betting they'd tell you they love to do it all over again. So you go ratrodders! Rescue your bikes...ride them and love them!
(but leave me a few of the nice girls bikes I can restore :) )
 

Obi-Wan Schwinnobi

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 5, 2013
6,591
1,653
39
San Diego
Boy! I'm new to this site, and I thought everyone here liked bikes. I mean all kinds of bikes like I do. Maybe not. If I knew this was going to be a Concourse d Elegance bike website, I might not have joined. If I go to a swap meet, and see a bare frame without a fork laying in the dirt for 40 bucks, I'm buying it and building what ever I want. I mean I have a rescued Chicago Schwinn date of Thursday, May 26th, 1960, built between 10:00 and 10:15 Am. It has Collegiate green paint that an automotive paint shop matched up for me, but it doesn't have fenders. It has a Chinese crank, and bars, and eBay decals. A buddy told me once, "You rescued a Chicago Schwinn frame and fork from the scrappers. Well done." Well, sheesh, maybe not if you read some of the posts here. I thought I was doing a good thing.
No that's cool...you saved a frame!... I think what some of the guys are talking about is the fact some ratrod guys take really nice complete bikes and destroy them by turning them into some pile of primer black crap...
 

Smoopy's

Finally riding a big boys bike
Sep 19, 2011
191
179
Woodbury, United States
www.smoopysbicycles.com
hey guys, just thought I would share this. My build-off bike from last year A.K.A. "Tuco" has a full feature in the upcoming issue of Ol' Skool Rodz magazine. I believe it goes on sale Oct. 4th or 7th..just watch your local newsstand..hell, if you send me your copy, I'll even autograph it for you..LOL..anyway, to me it's a big deal since this puts bicycles in the limelight right along with the custom car/ hot rod culture..I just hope it leads to many more bikes being featured along with the talented builders who build them..here's the issue:
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partsguy

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Aug 13, 2008
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The Land of Oz
One never knows when the next aerocycle or bluebird might be born with all the creative ideas out there that will define the generation of a time and people...right?
I wish you were right, but the only creative ideas I see from my 20-something generation is...iPhone updates. They're convenient to have but they don't "wow" me in anyway. On Thanksgiving and the Friday after, I stay home with my family and chat with friends. Those gadgets sure aren't winning me over enough to trample children and fight other adults...poo on all that commercialism
 

partsguy

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Aug 13, 2008
10,272
3,822
The Land of Oz
hey guys, just thought I would share this. My RRB build-off bike from last year A.K.A. "Tuco" has a full feature in the upcoming issue of Old Skool Rodz magazine. I believe it goes on sale Oct. 4th or 7th..just watch your local newsstand..To me it's a big deal since this puts bicycles in the limelight right along with the custom car/ hot rod culture..I just hope it leads to many more bikes being featured along with the talented builders who build them..here's a sneek peek spy photo of the issue (special thanks to Alan a.k.a. Decotriumph for the great write-up and opportunity :
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Nice job, bro!

Cute girl on the cover too! ;)
 
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Mike G

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Apr 20, 2014
20
1
RE: I'm not in favor of rat bikes...

This is just my two cents on the whole "Rat Bike" scenario... Just my opinion, don't start shooting!

I am kind of in the feeling that the term "Rat" gets used a bit loosely, being used to describe rides that don't get any sort of restoration effort. When actually the whole "Rat" thing is a kind'a sub culture, sort of an American based Rocker theme, without the café racer bikes. An amalgamation of vintage, retro rockabilly, nostalgic cool, Von Dutchified... all without the price tag of glitz and shiny chrome. It's obviously a genre that's widely accepted in automotive circles, just go to any hotrod, VW, or vintage car show, "Rat" rides are usually there in growing numbers. So it's only natural that the genre would translate into the motorcycle and as the OP brought up with the original post, ultimately bicycles. When I say the term gets used a bit "loosely" and example of that was one post that said if it wasn't for "Rats" there wouldn't be any MTB's. Well to me that really wasn't any kind of "Rat" effort, that was all done out of necessity to meet demands with what was available. Yes, kind'a the same theory as "Rat" but the aesthetic wasn't their prime objective. On the flip side of that coin, a rust covered barn find may be "Ratty" but in the original context of the term, without the utilization of what's on hand and again a specific targeted aesthetic it's not necessarily "Rat", just old and rusty... it's a fine line though between "Ratty" and "Rat".

Love it, hate it, it's a culture with an art form all it's own.

BTW "Smoopy's", awesome example of "RAT" ified!:cool: and congrats on getting it published!

Again this is all just one guy's opinion
 
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TRM

Finally riding a big boys bike
Sep 21, 2014
182
722
N.E. Alabama
I just finished looking through all 38 pages of the Drag King Raceliner thread over at the Rat Rod Build off #9.
If you haven't seen it yet, do yourself a huge favor and check it out.
Most of these tend to be total rats or total customs, with not much room in between.
This one really captures the essence of what the bike was, and what the bike has become, from its original theme concept through its evolution.
Absolutely, outstanding!
Thank you cyclingday! :)

I'm still new here, so it came as a great surprise to stumble onto this comment! It's very rewarding to find such a nice compliment that was completely unsolicited. I know that some people campaign for recognition and subsequent votes in these build-offs, but because I was not a member here during that time, it is especially gratifying to read yours and the other compliments posted here for my build!

Thanks again to you and everyone else for the kind words!

Here's a current picture of 'DRAG KING'.
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bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
20,373
4,691
Chicago area west
Thank you cyclingday! :)

I'm still new here, so it came as a great surprise to stumble onto this comment! It's very rewarding to find such a nice compliment that was completely unsolicited. I know that some people campaign for recognition and subsequent votes in these build-offs, but because I was not a member here during that time, it is especially gratifying to read yours and the other compliments posted here for my build!

Thanks again to you and everyone else for the kind words!

Here's a current picture of 'DRAG KING'.
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I'm not big on customs... but Drag King is Reeeeeaalllyyyy KOOL!!!!!
 

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