I'm not in favor of rat bikes!

Discussion in 'Custom Bicycles' started by baronvoncatania, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. #121 Posted Aug 9, 2014

    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    I just finished looking through all 38 pages of the Drag King Raceliner thread over at the Rat Rod Build off #9.
    If you haven't seen it yet, do yourself a huge favor and check it out.
    Most of these tend to be total rats or total customs, with not much room in between.
    This one really captures the essence of what the bike was, and what the bike has become, from its original theme concept through its evolution.
    Absolutely, outstanding!
     
  2. #122 Posted Aug 9, 2014

    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    A link is always most helpful!



    thanks!!!!!!
     
  3. #123 Posted Aug 9, 2014

    Finally riding a big boys bike

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  4. #124 Posted Aug 9, 2014

    Saint Lactose The Tolerant

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    Wow-Wee-Wow-Wow .... an amazing selection of machines built
    thru creativity and craftsmanship - all.

    Enigma ... #28 is my choice.

    In a design-league of it's own, while displaying attention to detail, not only
    in the manner of fabrication ... but also being very respectful to a classic frame -
    everything about the machine is built to 'bolt-on' ... and 'bolt-off' ... should
    the bicycle ever want to revert to it's original, mid-30's identity.

    Very, Very NICE, Carlton (fordsnake) !!!!!!!!!!



    .......................... patric cafaro


    post script ... I spent some time on that RatRod site tryin' to figure how to
    place a vote, and even became a member.

    Looked everywhere but in the correct area. If I figure out how to vote .. I will.

    If anyone here knows how to cast a vote at that RatRod site ... let us know, please. THANKS !!!!


    The following are a few of the fotos posted at that RatRod site for Entry #28 ... Enigma


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  5. #125 Posted Aug 12, 2014

    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    I agree with Pat the best bike there!Nice Job!!
     
  6. #126 Posted Aug 12, 2014

    Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline

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    Outstanding photography as well! Beautiful bike Carlton. V/r Shawn
     
  7. #127 Posted Aug 29, 2014

    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    What is considered a "rat" bike? The reason I ask is this. I'm working on motorizing a 1956 Roadmaster boys' frame. Now, I'm building from a completely care frame, no original parts I know of, save possibly the French seat post and headset bearing cups, though not sure at all. I'm using parts that I want to use, including building my own wheels. I am painting the frame black, not because everyone else does, but because it's my favorite color. The gas tank and the cable sheaths will be orange. But when I think of a rat, I think of a bike that is purposefully made to look crappy. And that's not an insult to rat bikes or those who build them, I mean that in the most artistic way possible. There is a lot of artistic media that is "purposefully crappy". All I'm saying is, I'm building my bike to look nice, it might even be a show piece. I'm not restoring the bike to any sort of original condition, but I'm trying to make it as nice as possible and with this being a motorized vehicle, my focus is primarily on functionality. So where does everyone draw the line?
     
  8. #128 Posted Aug 30, 2014

    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    To me

    Your bike would be full on custom. Ratrods and bikes are anything but started as making it look like the way a person of limited means
    would have done it back in the day or mimicing a boardtrack racer- they were rough and ready- street rods were super expesive chrome paint etc and not at all how it was done

    crappy is in the eye of the beholder- homebuilt and used can be a beautiful thing. That said a lot of crappy things are built to take advantage of the rat market.
     
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  9. #129 Posted Sep 20, 2014

    On Training Wheels

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    Boy! I'm new to this site, and I thought everyone here liked bikes. I mean all kinds of bikes like I do. Maybe not. If I knew this was going to be a Concourse d Elegance bike website, I might not have joined. If I go to a swap meet, and see a bare frame without a fork laying in the dirt for 40 bucks, I'm buying it and building what ever I want. I mean I have a rescued Chicago Schwinn date of Thursday, May 26th, 1960, built between 10:00 and 10:15 Am. It has Collegiate green paint that an automotive paint shop matched up for me, but it doesn't have fenders. It has a Chinese crank, and bars, and eBay decals. A buddy told me once, "You rescued a Chicago Schwinn frame and fork from the scrappers. Well done." Well, sheesh, maybe not if you read some of the posts here. I thought I was doing a good thing.







     
  10. #130 Posted Sep 20, 2014

    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    No that's cool...you saved a frame!... I think what some of the guys are talking about is the fact some ratrod guys take really nice complete bikes and destroy them by turning them into some pile of primer black crap...
     
  11. #131 Posted Sep 30, 2014

    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    hey guys, just thought I would share this. My build-off bike from last year A.K.A. "Tuco" has a full feature in the upcoming issue of Ol' Skool Rodz magazine. I believe it goes on sale Oct. 4th or 7th..just watch your local newsstand..hell, if you send me your copy, I'll even autograph it for you..LOL..anyway, to me it's a big deal since this puts bicycles in the limelight right along with the custom car/ hot rod culture..I just hope it leads to many more bikes being featured along with the talented builders who build them..here's the issue:
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  12. #132 Posted Sep 30, 2014

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Very cool magazine feature article, CONGRATS! Ride Low and Ride Slow.
     
  13. #133 Posted Sep 30, 2014

    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    Smoopy,That is my favorite rat bike ever.Congrats
     
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  14. #134 Posted Oct 1, 2014

    I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!

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    I wish you were right, but the only creative ideas I see from my 20-something generation is...iPhone updates. They're convenient to have but they don't "wow" me in anyway. On Thanksgiving and the Friday after, I stay home with my family and chat with friends. Those gadgets sure aren't winning me over enough to trample children and fight other adults...poo on all that commercialism
     
  15. #135 Posted Oct 1, 2014

    I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!

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    Nice job, bro!

    Cute girl on the cover too! ;)
     
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  16. #136 Posted Oct 1, 2014

    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    RE: I'm not in favor of rat bikes...

    This is just my two cents on the whole "Rat Bike" scenario... Just my opinion, don't start shooting!

    I am kind of in the feeling that the term "Rat" gets used a bit loosely, being used to describe rides that don't get any sort of restoration effort. When actually the whole "Rat" thing is a kind'a sub culture, sort of an American based Rocker theme, without the café racer bikes. An amalgamation of vintage, retro rockabilly, nostalgic cool, Von Dutchified... all without the price tag of glitz and shiny chrome. It's obviously a genre that's widely accepted in automotive circles, just go to any hotrod, VW, or vintage car show, "Rat" rides are usually there in growing numbers. So it's only natural that the genre would translate into the motorcycle and as the OP brought up with the original post, ultimately bicycles. When I say the term gets used a bit "loosely" and example of that was one post that said if it wasn't for "Rats" there wouldn't be any MTB's. Well to me that really wasn't any kind of "Rat" effort, that was all done out of necessity to meet demands with what was available. Yes, kind'a the same theory as "Rat" but the aesthetic wasn't their prime objective. On the flip side of that coin, a rust covered barn find may be "Ratty" but in the original context of the term, without the utilization of what's on hand and again a specific targeted aesthetic it's not necessarily "Rat", just old and rusty... it's a fine line though between "Ratty" and "Rat".

    Love it, hate it, it's a culture with an art form all it's own.

    BTW "Smoopy's", awesome example of "RAT" ified!:cool: and congrats on getting it published!

    Again this is all just one guy's opinion
     
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  17. #137 Posted Oct 21, 2014
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    Thank you cyclingday! :)

    I'm still new here, so it came as a great surprise to stumble onto this comment! It's very rewarding to find such a nice compliment that was completely unsolicited. I know that some people campaign for recognition and subsequent votes in these build-offs, but because I was not a member here during that time, it is especially gratifying to read yours and the other compliments posted here for my build!

    Thanks again to you and everyone else for the kind words!

    Here's a current picture of 'DRAG KING'.
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  18. #138 Posted Oct 22, 2014

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Love the Rat Phantom........here is my attempt at a custom like I had has a kid.

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  19. #139 Posted Oct 22, 2014

    I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!

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    I'm not big on customs... but Drag King is Reeeeeaalllyyyy KOOL!!!!!
     
  20. #140 Posted Nov 4, 2014
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    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    Thanks! I really appreciate the complement coming from someone that's 'not big on customs'.:cool: