Is the hobby dying again?

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frankandpam

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 21, 2016
464
Tacoma Wa
I would just like to make a couple more quick points. Our society has always leaned toward a doomsday obsession. And recessions always start with someone predicting one, so everyone hangs onto their money. It's like the big freeway slowdown because everybody is reading an alert sign. And that sign says "clear ahead". So why did everyone slow down? And young generation not getting into hobbies. Depends on what you consider "young". Yeh I don't see many twenty five year olds at car swaps with wads of money. But I do see the thirty somethings that use to be the twenty guys there buying and building cars and their wives starting to dig mid century home furnishings. There's a point in your life where you figure out what is really cool and want to be part of it. "Bmx's are big because that's what they rode as a kid". Sure but also they haven't reached the outer limits on price.Finally, I may be old, but how many of you are into prewar art deco balloon bikes because that's what you rode as a kid, or like 32 coups because you bought one new. Get it ?
 

CeeBee

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 4, 2010
121
Hendersonville, United States
How does anything "die again"? The initial question assumes this hobby actually died at one time. I was not aware of this.
 

razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
May 28, 2018
1,056
59
kiel wisconsin
So I know I've been out of bicycles for quite a while but, it's come to my attention that prices have gone down in parts also the demand has too so I'm just wondering why that is. Has everybody found the parts they've been looking for? Have people moved on to different eras instead of art deco? I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks.

Nick.
I think it has more to do with the supply and demand aspect. Also it has a lot to do with what the market will bear. Most times i have found it has to do with what people are willing to pay. Hope this helps. Ride On. Razin.
 

MEKANIXFIX

Look Ma, No Hands!
Apr 16, 2014
53
USA PR
As a frequent buyer/seller/flipper/collector/restorer...
It is indeed the worst it has ever been in my over 40 years goofing with these old bikes
I love the balloon stuff and have focused mostly on Schwinn which I always thought
was fail safe. Market has indeed tanked and it's really discouraging.
Currently working on several nice restorations to offer publicly and
reaaaaalllly wondering if anyone cares any more about this stuff...
at least at the levels historically that have been sound.
As long as it's a hobby, have fun with it. Think twice about
making a business or even part time job.
Many millennials and younger could give give a rats @ss about vintage goods.
I grew up flipping mid century modern stuff and vintage bikes as
a good side gig most of my life... I don't even look at cool 50's kitch'
anymore...no one cares. They just buy Ikea and throw it out in 2 years.
don't get me started on electric bikes and other such lazy endeavors
regarding cycling...
ah well... was fun while it lasted.
Encourage people to get involved in the hobby...
Vintage bikes are green...not coming out of chinese factories etc....
recycled style. Should be all the rage.
again..
go figure.
blowwws


....I might add... rare and exotic stuff seems to be doing ok...established collectors
buying, selling and trading...
it's the entry level, the at one time 'bread and butter' market ...that is slowly fading..
the more common balloon parts are a tough sell.
Hello Bob I always ride & collect vintage bikes! What I noticed are the prices changed someone buy a garage sale for $100 and wants a $1000 ! Now the bmx are back but very high prices! I continues whit my schwinn cycle trucks & balloons take care!
 
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Goldenrod

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Mar 14, 2016
516
74
Schaumburg
There are more bikes in need of collecting then there are collectors? They are not making old bikes so the number is fixed. What we need is shows and newspaper stories and more people on the CABE. I show Whizzers during all seasons. I got myself and our club into the newspaper 7 times . I got our Whizzer Club on TV 6 times. Now the internet repeats these programs to those who Google them. The CABE uses technology well. We are having a world discussion right now. Parts can be gotten easily on Ebay.. Information is just a few CABE clicks away. There has been some talk of money on this post but it is the joy of sharing and improvement that I see. Where can I find this large a number of fun loving smart asses like myself? Only here. Are numbers more important than quality?
 

Callahooney1

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 7, 2018
160
Albuquerque
I've seen the hobby change as interest changes. Back in the early 80's post war balloon tire bikes, parts, various makes were quite desirable and commanded decent $. As time went on into the 90's early 2k, Stingray stuff became more popular and desirable, prices increased. Mid 2k BMX became more and more popular/desirable. I've noticed that prewar stuff has always been strong and desirable, but now brands (other than Schwinn) are being found, sold, traded, restored etc. Prewar stuff is still riding strong. To me the next trend going to hit will be old school Mountain bikes. It's starting to gain more momentum. The cool thing is if you like bikes there's plenty of different types to suit your taste. Market will fluctuate. Keep it alive. Buy, trade, sell, collect. Make it fun!
 

KevinsBikes

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 21, 2016
487
39
Phoenix, AZ
Hobby is rolling in AZ.
Do you ride with the AZ Coaster group?
Over 10,000 riders showed out last Saturday in Tempe for Tour de Fat.
Were you there? Involve yourself; participate!
I was there! It was awesome. Saw a fair amount of vintage bikes too.
 
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KevinsBikes

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 21, 2016
487
39
Phoenix, AZ
I think the age of the Internet is the age of education. If you do an hour of research you can ensure you aren't paying top dollar. Make friends and you can find what you need at very fair prices, if you are willing to do the same and sell to your friends who have different interests.

There is certainly still a market for bikes, and always will be. Its just not as easy to label your bike "rare" and have people take your word for it. But if you keep trying and have a true interest they are still out there.

@Nickinator also you know more about the hobby than most here so with your knowledge you'll have no problem selling. Maybe just not as fast or as often, with a little lower prices.
 

Nashman

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 2, 2016
2,329
62
Winnipeg, Canada
Lots of great comments. At the end of the day, it's a hobby and if you dig it, go with it. If It's an investment, prepare to lose, just like the stock market. We are all getting older. Generally we collect what we remember. 1920's/30's car markets are dead, as most people from that era are. Even 50's cars have been dying and the 60's/70's cars have been hot. Why...because of the market of aging Boomers/ people with $$ are buyers. Today's kids generally don't give a rat's arse about vintage bikes or anything other than the next "text" on their cell phones.

With that in mind, the hobby will shrink (and all cool antiques). I think most people in the hobby and CABE are over 30. No problem. Newbies are welcome. There are certain people ( younger) who can see the quality of items made at a "better time" when things were made with pride and by hand. If you are in a hobby for pleasure, who cares? If in it for profit or status, best look at your cards and fold or suck it up.

I'm just happy looking at my "stash" of history/bikes/goodies, and above all, the pleasure I've experienced with people I've dealt with acquiring said items and to ride them and hopefully pass them on to my kids ( who will flip and get zip$$ no doubt) for someone else to enjoy. Cheers, Bob
 

Nashman

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 2, 2016
2,329
62
Winnipeg, Canada
There is a movement happening now to reject "stuff" in general. Millenials are spending their money on travel in competition with their online "friends" over taking the best selfie. They're posting photos of restaurant food on their plate instead of their new bike. From their point of view, a $3,000 bike will collect dust but a trip to Paris will provide lifelong memories.

Time will tell if it's a permanent societal change or just a fad, but there are other forces at work too. With global warming and plastic in the oceans, people are disenchanted with old ways of thinking and living. Now we have a "sharing economy". Here in Toronto you don't even need to own a single bike to enjoy cycling, you can just rent one from the city's bike share program. If I tell people I have 50 bicycles they look at me like I have 3 heads. But I like my 50 bikes and I'm keeping them!

This hobby may shrink but it won't die. The bicycle is in the top ten of the greatest inventions of all time, plus it's green!

Google this Forbes article for further reading:

033 views|Jan 2, 2019,4:12 pm
NOwnership, No Problem: An Updated Look At Why Millennials Value Experiences Over Owning Things
Cheers, fellow Canuck!
 

Saving Tempest

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 6, 2012
4,653
53
Earth (Middle)
That's because they suck with money and stuff so they reject that stuff for that reason.

Or so the 'mainstream media' says (whatever THAT is). The secret is to get some things cheap and work on it.

Or as my signature says on another site: My stuff: A bunch of happy little crap that mostly says Pioneer whether it works or not, or something like that.

I agree that I'll probably be dead in 12 years, but I like to say so will these kids, NYAH.

Take with a grain of salt (and these are from Barrie, Ontario, Canadian Content)


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kenny_hungus

Look Ma, No Hands!
Jun 9, 2015
49
So I know I've been out of bicycles for quite a while but, it's come to my attention that prices have gone down in parts also the demand has too so I'm just wondering why that is. Has everybody found the parts they've been looking for? Have people moved on to different eras instead of art deco? I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks.

Nick.
 

kenny_hungus

Look Ma, No Hands!
Jun 9, 2015
49
It's not just bikes ....vintage car and truck parts are down in some cases 50%....this has been going on for about a year now.
 

SJ_BIKER

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Mar 4, 2010
5,655
Hollister CA
Watch this:
Marketing at its finest. Learn from SE. Where i live all the kids have these SE bikes and they wheelie all the way down the street....cant do that on a balloon JC Higgins with out breaking your back. Just means i can pick up old bikes others dont want and list them or parts here.... Lovin the idea

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