Iver Johnson? Archbar

Discussion in 'Antique Bicycles Pre-1933' started by DanielKj, Apr 13, 2018.

  1. #1 Posted Apr 13, 2018

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    I just got this bike and don't know anything about it. I think the frame and cranks are original, but thats all.
    Has holes for a Iver Johnson head badge I think. New World head badge was added. What is the seat post? Any Idea of year? Serial number 109765. I think it may have been a 28" wheels but has 26" forks.
    Thanks for any help.

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  2. #2 Posted Apr 13, 2018

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    Looks like an Iver.
     
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  3. #3 Posted Apr 13, 2018

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    Nice and tall:cool:
     
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  4. #4 Posted Apr 13, 2018

    I live for the CABE

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    Nice early Iver with some not Iver parts .. 1910's ish
     
  5. #5 Posted Apr 13, 2018

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    Fork and badge are incorrect
     
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    Do you have any idea what year the forks would be?
    Does the seat post with the nut on top date it?
    Thanks
     
  7. #7 Posted Apr 13, 2018

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    The frame would date to about 1901-1902. Almost everything else is 1930 and later. Crankset is wrong too, It should have the earlier version with a different chainring and the lock nut on the drive side. I'm a tall guy and if you decide to let it go I have a 1910's Columbia frame/fork/crankset I would trade. I wouldn't need your wheels, fenders, seat, fork, pedals, chain, or grips if that would make shipping easier.
     
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  8. #8 Posted Apr 14, 2018

    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    Mine's probably 1912 with a 195xxx serial number, so your frame is definitely old. As others have said, it's an IJ crank, but post 1912. I think you're right about the rest of the assessment. Stem looks right, though.

    How's the standover height on it? Mine's the small frame (though, 28" wheels) and I'm 5'11" with longish legs and I don't clear the frame by much at all, yet with the seat raised and one of those more modern cheesy 6-piece clamps on top of the fully extended stem, it's still just short of allowing full leg extension.
     
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  9. #9 Posted Apr 14, 2018

    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    A schwiver
     
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  10. #10 Posted Apr 15, 2018

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    1907 - 1908 according to my data base. Nice find. I just sold the correct badge a few days ago.
     
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    That arch geometry, with the tube connection, was only used around 1908-9.
     
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  12. #12 Posted Apr 15, 2018

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    The frame coincides with the 1908 catalog as you say, but the number is earlier. How many units you will say they produced a year? I'm trying to pin point the year exactly.
     
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    I’m not sure. IJ did not keep very exact records.
     
  14. #14 Posted Apr 16, 2018

    I live for the CABE

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    Very nice tall frame Iver........................needs quite a lot of TLC, but could be a real beauty. Pete in Fitchburg
     
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    From looking at other serial numbers, it seems like they probably averaged roughly 20k bikes/year, which could definitely put it in the 1907-08 range.