J & R FLYER W/ Springer front end Year ???


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Dweezil002

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Dec 30, 2018
15
3
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Chicago
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Picked up 3 complete bikes today.
Green J & R Flyer
Blue JC Higgins
Red ???
Can anyone help me date these bikes ?
I've Been searching for hours and getting nowhere.
Just joined this site, Best source of info on the interweb !!!
I'm hoping Adamtinkerer will give me his $.02 .
Thanks.
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Dweezil002

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Dec 30, 2018
15
3
47
Chicago
#2
Model number is 85745330.
Does that mean its a 1957 ??
Sorry about all the pics, Still trying to figure this computer thing out.
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
16,363
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Evans, GA
#5
I think the green bike is a Monark. Elgin was a Sears brand but not a bike maker. Be good to see the chainring side of the bike. V/r Shawn
 
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stezell

I live for the CABE
May 8, 2014
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Clarksville, TN, United States
#7
I think the green bike is a Monark. Elgin was a Sears brand but not a bike maker. Be good to see the chainring side of the bike. V/r Shawn
So it would be Monark with an Elgin brand tank or is that a Monark tank?

V/r
Sean
 

Dweezil002

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Dec 30, 2018
15
3
47
Chicago
#9
The paint under the rattle can green is the same, on the forks as is the entire bike. Original paint is Maroon.
If someone swapped the front end, how is the paint exact? I will look for pics of the of the Monark fork. Thanks for the info.
Do you think the badge is original ??
Is Elgin made by J&R ??
Any guess on the year ??
Thanks for responding.
Vince
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
16,363
17,457
Evans, GA
#10
This is a Monark built bike. Probably a '40 model. Badge is original. Monark, Murray, and Westfield all built Elgin (Sears) bikes. V/r Shawn
 
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Dweezil002

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Dec 30, 2018
15
3
47
Chicago
#11
Not trying to be rude ,
I am totally Ignorant.
I dont know what a Monark tank is.
Hoping you guys can edicutate me ?
Thanks again for your time
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
16,363
17,457
Evans, GA
#15
Full resto on any of these is out of the question because none of them are very valuable. If your intent is to flip then don't spend a dime or time because it will be wasted. V/r Shawn
 

Dweezil002

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Dec 30, 2018
15
3
47
Chicago
#16
Tubes, Tires And Grease It Is !!!
Shawn, Thank You So Much For All The Info.
You saved me weeks of uncertainty !
Still have ??? on other bikes... Dont let this thread die.
Thanks again to everyone who responded!
V.
 

Adamtinkerer

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 8, 2008
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Western North carolina
#20
I own two J & R Flyers, one is a mid '30s Shelby built, and the other is an early postwar, Monark built, with blackout hubs. I've only seen a couple others with this badge! I found out J & R was an auto parts chain out of Ohio. The tank & frame design are similar to Murray built Elgins, but not identical! The JC looks to be CBC/Ross built, mid to late '50s. The red bike is Murray built, probably mid '60s. Green bike is worth about $150, the others $50 each at best.
 

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