Junior Safety Identification Help Please!

[Brian R.]

The top tube is not horizontal, it just looks that way in the photo because of the stand under the rear wheel. I think a sloped top tube increases the possibility that it's from the early 1890s. Pope started up Hartford in 1890 I think.

 

[carlitos60]

That Beast is Out of This World!!!
Love the Whole Bike, But Specially the Seat!!
Was it for Sale??

 

[New Mexico Brant]

The top tube is not horizontal, it just looks that way in the photo because of the stand under the rear wheel. I think a sloped top tube increases the possibility that it's from the early 1890s. Pope started up Hartford in 1890 I think.

Thanks again for your insight Brian; you are correct, the top tube is angled down a bi.t when the bike is off the stand. I share your frustration as I haven't found another example with the double down tubes. How were the early Hartford's badged? There are no holes for a badge but if you look at the sixth picture down, a halo/ghost shape is visible on the head tube; guessing the bike had a decal here?

 

[New Mexico Brant]

That Beast is Out of This World!!!
Love the Whole Bike, But Specially the Seat!!
Was it for Sale??

Thank you for your kind words! Sorry, it isn't for sale; I walked miles at the Hershey Swap, it was worth it to find this bicycle.

 

[Brian R.]

Brant, I'm still working on it. Can you post some measurements please: seat tube, head tube, and pedal cranks?

 

[New Mexico Brant]

Brant, I'm still working on it. Can you post some measurements please: seat tube, head tube, and pedal cranks?

The head tube measures: 7 1/4 inches, the seat tube: 23 inches (from the very top, to the metal plate on the bottom just under the rubber block), the cranks: 8 1/8 inches (end to end), 7 " (from the center of the pedal axis to the crank axis). The ghost label/badge outline is approx. 2 1/2 " tall (see drawing). Thank you again for your time and interest in trying to identify this bicycle. I ordered tires yesterday.

 

[tripple3]

I ordered tires yesterday.

Awesome!
I would like to see this out there being ridden; both feet on the coaster pegs bombing down a hill.....

 

[bricycle]

looks like a Miller High Life bike (badge)
Awesome find!

 

[New Mexico Brant]

Awesome!
I would like to see this out there being ridden; both feet on the coaster pegs bombing down a hill.....

Exactly! That is my hope, as long as I can get some tires that work out with it. The first pair were too big.

 

[Jesse McCauley]

Found an original advert for that neeto leather strap wrapped around the chainwheel.
Ad hails from 1898 Good Roads