Just Bought A Black Beauty...I Think...

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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,966
Floral Park, NY, United States
Thanks to a "Heads Up" from @bikesnbuses because it was here on Long Island, I got to purchase this bike. I was leery on first seeing it, and initially said no because of the ebay photos. And at a starting price of $100 or Buy It Now at $150, I declined. I did contact the owner with a bit of info I could make out (like it was a re-paint, etc.) and he thanked me. He then told me he was going to lower the starting price to $50...but if I wanted it he'd do it as a Buy It Now at $50 for me. To tempting to pass up, I figured what the heck! So $50 plus Tax came to almost $55, and this morning I was off to pick it up.

Turns out it's in much better shape that the photos showed (opposite of what I usually run into) and I can't wait to start to clean many, many years of dust and dirt from it.

But...is this truly a Black Beauty? Didn't they all have a "B" crankset or at least a decorative one? And, does anyone have any idea as to the year on this one? I'm assuming 1930's or so, but please let me know. Enjoy the photos I took as it left my SUV. :cool:

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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
19,652
Evans, GA
Ok that serial is not looking Westfield to me? Have to let the experts weigh in on this one. V/r Shawn
 
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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,966
Floral Park, NY, United States
This is now officially the oldest bike I have ever owned. I'm thrilled to find out any and all info any of the experts out there can offer. :grinning:
 
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Mercian

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jul 1, 2016
715
53
France
Hi, All,

no, not a Westfield serial. Wrong font, and they didn't use U.

Best Regards,

Adrian
 

HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,966
Floral Park, NY, United States
Apparently when the bike was spray painted, they decided to match the grips that someone had put on.

Oh, and I did notice a drilled hole on the seat tube near the crank, so this bike originally came with a chain guard. One of those large, circular designed pieces of art.

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Archie Sturmer

I live for the CABE
Jun 13, 2018
1,542
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Snyder bottom bracket joints and fork crown.

“U” serial may be a 1933-U; don’t think that the HP Snyder Little Falls NY plant skipped 1934-V,
(working backwards from 35-W, 36-X, 37-Y, etc.).
 
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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,966
Floral Park, NY, United States
Snyder bottom bracket joints and fork crown.

“U” serial may be a 1933-U; don’t think that the HP Snyder Little Falls NY plant skipped 1934-V,
(working backwards from 35-W, 36-X, 37-Y, etc.).
Thanks for the update! So thanks to @Freqman1 's site, this would be a 1933, and the last year for that hub to be used. Cool!
 
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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,966
Floral Park, NY, United States
@sm2501 Scott, the Black Beauty you just sold has the same head badge as mine. What years was this badge used?

I pumped up the tires and they held air. Took it for a quick down the block ride and all was good. And looking at the tires, they could be original, but then why would you paint the bike if that indicated not a lot of use?
I might try and see if I can remove some paint to see what lays beneath...:confused:
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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,966
Floral Park, NY, United States
After examining the bottom bracket serial numbers, they're not covered in blue paint. Any chance that the bike was originally blue, and someone matched it closely only to cover scrapes, scratches and rust? The head tube looks like they used a brush if you look closely, but I need to clean more of the bike to see if this appears elsewhere. Did they make a blue back then???
 
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