Just picked up this survivor. Any idea on what I have?


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Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#1
I had a friend pick this up this bike for me. Rear wheel has been replaced. No headbadge, tons of paint on the frame and the serial number is covered over. I'll need to wire wheel the paint to find the numbers.
Thanks in advance

Boz
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dogdart

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 10, 2009
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Pittsburgh PA
#3
Appears to be a pre war Cleveland Welding " bent tank "
Cant tell from pics , but I have seen late 41 -42
Western Flyers come with no badge at all
Although this has Roadmaster type chainring
 

Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#5
Frame and fork look like Westfield built to me. Exactly like a 1939 I have. The serial number will tell.
Hopefully I can uncover the serial number soon.

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Robertriley

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Apr 15, 2010
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#6
Hopefully I can uncover the serial number soon.

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It also looks like a Westfield frame and fork to me but the sprocket is a Cleveland welding. Are those aluminum fenders?
 

Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
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#7
It also looks like a Westfield frame and fork to me but the sprocket is a Cleveland welding. Are those aluminum fenders?
I haven't checked the fenders to see if they are aluminum or just polished chrome. I'll put a magnet on them and let you know.

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Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
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Alexandria, Virginia United States
#8
I haven't checked the fenders to see if they are aluminum or just polished chrome. I'll put a magnet on them and let you know.

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Fenders are polished chrome steel.

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Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#10
Finally started the restoration of this survivor bicycle. Serial number 7476FBW
With G10 stamped below it. Any idea on the year it was produced?
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Archie Sturmer

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 13, 2018
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#11
Sometimes straight bar refers to the down tube, on older bikes. I believe that by 1940, the relatively new CWC had models with curved down tubes.
Westfield was a hold-out; they even had double drop bar frames in 1940's, it is said. Snyder (Rollfast) went to the curved down tube in 1942 mens models, I believe.
I believe that pictures of the seat post cluster and seat stay bridge would be helpful.
The seat post clamp appears to be the old style integrated into the seat post cluster (hard to see).
Some Westfield frames had notched seat post clamp bolts, so that one did not require two wrenches.
Often the main joints at the bottom bracket are a hint toward Snyder versus Westfield.
I believe that the drop outs on Snyder bikes, may have had a notch between the drop stand pivot hole and the drop stand stop (ears).
Head tube holes for fastening a head badge might be somewhat helpful, but both Snyder and Westfield had mostly horizontal holes.
 
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Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#12
The serial number on the frame does not follow the Westfield serial numbering scheme for the late 30s and 40s. Here are some pics of the seat post hole.
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Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#13
Frame and fork look like Westfield built to me. Exactly like a 1939 I have. The serial number will tell.
With the G10 BB code I would say it is a Westfield frame built in October 1940. The other serial number of the frame confuses me. Perhaps a Road Master CWC with a Westfield frame?
 

bikemonkey

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 25, 2016
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#15
Hopefully the forks will straighten out..I would check the head tube/top tube intersection for cracks as well as the steerer tube/forkcrown.
 

Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#16
Hopefully the forks will straighten out..I would check the head tube/top tube intersection for cracks as well as the steerer tube/forkcrown.
I have a little brute and the fork has straightened out nicely. Didn't need much. It looks pretty solid under all the barn dirt and grime.

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Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#17
Fork beyond salvation. Luckily I had a spare in stock. This bike accident must have really hurt!
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Bozman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 6, 2009
633
588
Alexandria, Virginia United States
#18
Just finished striping down the bike and found the holes for the headbadge. The holes are vertical and are 2 3/8 inches apart. Any ideas what headbadge would go on this bike?

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Adamtinkerer

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 8, 2008
3,401
453
Western North carolina
#19
The three letters might indicate a Firestone badged bike, I know they used their own coding.
 

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