kindly help ID early racer - PATD stamped BB

[mongeese]

Frame is light. Crank is stamped CF-400. Fork steer tube is stamped 405 22.

 

[Handyman]

Not sure what it is mongeese but I like it.........................with the exception of those bars, they look horrible on that bike, please PM me and I'll take them off your hands. Pete in Fitchburg

 

[mongeese]

The bars have paint on them with what looks to be very very nice nickel underneath.

 

[Handyman]

Darn !!

 

[mongeese]

Any help?

 

[bulldog1935]

looks like a 6-digit serial number, which is big - should be a common maker

Patented Nov 19, 189x
1892 Metz Elliptical crank http://www.google.com/patents/US513589
1896 Quinn hand crank (unlikely) http://www.google.com/patents/US582315
1898 Hana chainless rod crank (also unlikely) http://www.google.com/patents/US636260
look at the date again and see if you can read it better or try different combinations on the year

Maybe it's Nov 19, 193x?

 

[highwheel431]

Patent dates would be the date of issue not the date of filing. The only November 11 year for a patent pre 1900 would be 1895. There where 9 bicycle related patents issued that day.
549917
549928
550067
550103
550116
550122 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/0550122.pdf
550206 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/0550206.pdf
550229
550231

Two of them relate to cranks '122 & '206

Ross

 

[mongeese]

Have not gotten a chance to go through the links yet. Just seen the replies and a thousand thank yous bulldog1935 and highwheel431. Much appreciation truly.

 

[bulldog1935]

actually, if you owned the patent, you would claim the date you filed it

 

[highwheel431]

actually, if you owned the patent, you would claim the date you filed it

Well I do have 10 patents and the official date of the patent is the issue date. The patent has to be issued to have any status. So the date that represents the patent is the date of issue, it is not a patent until then. This is also the date that needs to be used to find the patent. Patents are only issued on Tuesdays. Defending the concept of conception is another issue with actually goes beyond the filing date.