Klunker build

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Dutch

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 29, 2015
48
Hello everybody, I just joined the forum and introduced myself in the introducing topic.
My name is Jeroen, 40 y.o. from Holland, and have been mountainbiking since 1990.
Since 2005 I got the bug for vintage bikes when I bought the bike I was drooling over when I was 15 (and had to buy a low end Dutch brand).
When I was looking for info on this bike I found Retrobike.UK and that started a decade of collecting bikes, meeting and riding with a lot of other collectors, reading and learning a lot about the history of MTB's and its origin in the fat tire bikes.
My interest shifted more and more from early 90's to mid '80 to early '80 and at last to the converted pre-war Schwinn's from Kelly, Fisher, Bonds etc.
I read a lot of posts and articles of these bikes, and got the itch to build one my self.
I've started collecting parts almost two years a go, first thing I bought was the most important, a pre-war Schwinn (maybe Excelsior?) frame with a lot of rust, but luckely good enough to use.
The rust was superficial, a lot of pist, but not to deep.
All the parts are here, all I need is now is the space and time to paint it and get building.

I got some questions about the brakes, I hope you can help me.
I want to use this as a rider, so decided to not build a replica of the first geared klunkers with the drum brakes and steel rims but a bit later version with the alloy rims and canti's.
I had a conversation via mail with Alan Bonds about using canti brakes and he told me (and has some pics) he had some bikes from around '78 with Schwinn canti's wich he modified to use with motorbike brake levers and Mafac or Dia Compe brakes, so only using the mounts on the forks ans seatstays.

So my question is; did anyone here do such a modification, or used other mounts or solutions for canti's on a Schwinn frame with blade forks?
 
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frampton

Wore out three sets of tires already!
May 31, 2012
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Looks like a great start. The clamp on canti brakes would be my choice with a blade fork. New pads would be a good upgrade.
 
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fat tire trader

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 29, 2010
3,887
San Quentin, California
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Oh no, another good frame about to be modified.
We would usually replace the blade fork with a Cook Bros fork with canti mounts. Another option for you if you want to keep the blade fork is Schwinn made clamp-on cantilever brakes that will fit on the blade fork.
 

rustjunkie

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Jul 11, 2012
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Gonna be cool! I say braze-away: nothing "rare" here and no original paint to preserve. If by some long-shot chance a person wants to "restore" this bike down the road, it's easy to remove canti bosses before paint.
 
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looneymatthew

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 3, 2010
922
san clemente ca
Do whatever you want.
There is nothing special there
You have already made it more interesting /it will
Be cool to see when it's done. You have all the right parts to make a proper klunker. The earliest klunker builds
We're before cooks bros.or Gary Fischer ect. They were the first down hill/mountain bike. Most early examples I've seen are using the parts you have gathered.

Just go for it.
 

RustyHornet

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 26, 2014
214
Fort Wayne, IN
This is cool! Keep on doing what you're doing. It's your bike, do with it what you please. Klunkers are some of the coolest bikes. That's what this hobby is all about, having fun, building bikes the way you want, not the way everybody else wants.

Jon
 

rustintime

Finally riding a big boys bike
Sep 1, 2015
107
Upland Ca.
Hi Dutch .. Looks like your going to have a cool Klunker with a mix of old and new.. Schwinn had factory front caliper brakes on blade forks way back in 1955.. The Schwinn American had them and once in while they come up on ebay.. As far as what you need for the rear try checking out BMX Museum.. I've seen some 26" cruiser that had that type of set up with after market mounts..
 
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T-Mar

Finally riding a big boys bike
May 29, 2015
107
The great thing about clunkers is that that the originators of the movement tried every conceivable combination and variation. Consequently, it's virtually impossible to build one "wrong", unless there is some component that is obviously too modern. Even if you can't find objective evidence, it's still in the spirit of the movement.

My first exposure to clunkers was the "Clunkers Among the Hills" article that Charlie Kelly wrote for the January 1979 issue of Bicycling. Given, that the founders obviously were referring to them as "clunkers" (with a 'c') at the time, as opposed to "klunkers" (with a 'k'), I have often wondered when and why the spelling changed. Even people like Kelly himself have converted to "klunker" but I still prefer "clunker" out of deference to the origin.

clunkers among the hills.JPG
 
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Dutch

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 29, 2015
48
Thanks for the replies all, I made up my mind.
I want the frame to be as original as possible, so decided not to braze on the bosses I already bought a while back.
A member here has a set of canti's for sale, so going for that.
Just the mounts and the brakes, and will use the motorbike handles pictured above.
There will be no more modifications done than coldsetting the rear to fit a 130mm hub.

Any idea of the type and year of the frame?
I've guessed it prewar because of the dropouts, is that correct?
 

Dutch

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 29, 2015
48
BTW the set of canti's are both for the front, so I'll have to check if I can use them on the rear.
The rear ones are pretty rare, never seen one for sale before.
 

Dutch

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 29, 2015
48
I had that in mind for this build, everything was tried back then.
For parts choice I used Alan's site and combined a few builds to my taste.
This will be a approx. '78 build when the first alloy rims came availlable.
 

spoker

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Mar 3, 2011
5,499
Minneapolis, United States
there is a rear brake with cable and 2 handls on mpls cr but the brake caliper is to an early lihght weight so you wouldneed the adaptor that used 2 be sold,the easyest way is to use a nultispeed rear hub with a coaster brake
 

RustyHornet

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 26, 2014
214
Fort Wayne, IN
That is a DX frame. Yes pre WWII. I'm still learning on the years, but if you post up a pic of the serial number I'm sure we could figure it out.

Jon
 

fattyre

I live for the CABE
Oct 22, 2014
1,074
Chicagoland
Sweet stem! Not to sure your rear derailleur is going to work though. You'll probably need a longer pull cage. --opps. Just realized there was a page two and an up date, so never mind about the derailleur. Good luck!
 
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Dutch

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 29, 2015
48
Sweet stem! Not to sure your rear derailleur is going to work though. You'll probably need a longer pull cage. --opps. Just realized there was a page two and an up date, so never mind about the derailleur. Good luck!
I'm afraid it might be to short as well, but couldn't find a longer one. I'll have to try when it is finished.

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