Late teens/early 20's Indian

Discussion in 'Antique Bicycles Pre-1933' started by ohdeebee, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. #1 Posted Apr 9, 2017

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    I bought his bike a week ago, but won't have it in my possession until the end of the month. These bikes are well outside my already limited realm of knowledge so therefore I am consulting with the experts. I've read through the Indian information thread on here a couple of times now, but am still not clear on a lot of the details.

    I'd like to know what is right and wrong parts wise on this bike. The only glaring thing I can see are the wheels. Seat looks questionable and the pics I have don't show enough detail on the pedals. The seller provided me after the sale with an original 1916 catalog saying that it came to him with the bike. From what I can tell this bike is not a 1916.

    Is there a way to pin down the year more precisely than 1917-1923? Do the serial numbers provide any information or are we still accumulating them in order to find out more information? What years used the flared front fender? What hubs should I be looking for? What pedals should be on the bike? Grips? More than likely this bike will need a repaint as well so I would be interested in color choices as well.

    These are all of the photos I have of the bike at the moment, but I'll be happy to provide as many as needed once I have possession of the the bicycle. I'm more than happy to share catalog pics as well, it it's my understanding that this catalog has already been well reproduced and is readily available. Thanks in advance for any information, I look forward to diving into this project and learning as much as I can along the way.

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  2. #2 Posted Apr 9, 2017

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Love it! Congrats to you!!
     
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    I live for the CABE

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    Pinning down the years on some othese Indians has been a challenge, to say the least. I am curious to see the serial number even though I have not found any clear sequential information for the Hendee era bikes. The fork, bottom bracket, rear cross brace where the fender is attached ( curved or straight ) and rear drops will provide clues, congratulations!
    Todd
     
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    Nice find.
     
  5. #5 Posted Apr 9, 2017

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Awesome find! Parts look correct to me other than *maybe* the seat? I wish I owned this bike!
     
  6. #6 Posted Apr 9, 2017

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    Not sure about seat but grips may be original and can't tell on pedals. I would guess year to be about 1918 with split bottom bracket. I think this may be the last year for the split BB as well but not for sure. Red is your only color choice and likely with gold pins on the fenders. Rear hub could have been Morrow, ND Model A, or Atherton? Look forward to seeing serial and more pics. V/r Shawn
     
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    I live for the CABE

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    I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!

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    Nice nab!
     
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    I live for the CABE

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    I have an "extra " Indian saddle...Tom
     
  10. #10 Posted Apr 30, 2017

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Picked up the bike today and added some parts. I know the light isn't correct. Saddle looks a lot better with the correct looking undercarriage. Unfortunately the serial number is illegible. Pedals that came with the bike do not match, are either correct? Front fender brace is also broken in half.

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  11. #11 Posted Apr 30, 2017

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    Red is not the color choice -Vermilion or Indian red it is a lush maroon -- refer to properly restored teens Indian motorcycles gold pinstripes
     
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    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Almost forgot. Rear hub is Mattatuck All American. I've never heard of it.

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    Wheels are not the correct era by about 40 or 50 years but its easy enough to build up a era correct ridable wheel set. I think the Mattatuck hub is what replaced New departure but I'm not 100% sure.
     
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    I live for the CABE

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    I'm taking bets on how long it will be before your inbox explodes with offers to buy it :eek::D
    p.s. beautiful bike & a great find.
     
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    I see the original Indian red underneath the red house paint. Might be worth a shot to try and remove it. I'm sure Todd will weigh in but based on the font and arrangement of the numbers I'm still sticking by about 1918ish. V/r Shawn
     
  18. #18 Posted May 2, 2017

    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    IMG_4279.JPG IMG_4278.JPG IMG_4280.JPG IMG_4282.JPG I think this is a 1918 indian fork your looks later. And just a primer this is the light for the Indian and none of it's for sale sorry..
     
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    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    I always thought that the casted type chain tensioners were later than 1918, possibly more like 1920 and the stamped two piece were earlier.

    Mine are stamped two piece. If you remove the adj. screw the u-shaped threaded piece will fall out.

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    I live for the CABE

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    I have to agree with Shawn, I'm thinking 1917-1919, still a lot to learn about these bikes.

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