Late teens Indian?


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LuckyArt

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Sep 3, 2018
19
25
67
Foothills, Ca.
#1
Hey All, my name is Art and I am another dreaded “Newbie”. I am new also to bicycle collecting, having bought my first old bike, a 1939 Elgin for my wife, a few years ago. I just bought 7 assorted bikes from a 70 year old barn, two of which are pre-war. I believe my nickname “Lucky”, given by my friends for my lucky finds at swap meets, etc, may be true this time also. I need confirmation of what I found, possibly the year estimate, and maybe value. Thanks to your incredible forums, I have come to believe my bike is a 1918-20 Indian, serial number “17587” so close as I can see. The serial number is not on the two piece crank cover, rather on one of the two bars between the crank and the “curved” rear crossbar. There is no head badge. Any help would be great. Thanks, Art.

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Goldenindian

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 31, 2014
753
1,041
Marinette, Wisconsin
#9
My favorite frame for the Indian!! Small head tube/split bottom/triple plate fork/flared fender. Can’t wait to see more of this one. Thanks for sharing the find with the cabe.
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bikejunk

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 1, 2014
498
125
55
passaic NJ
#10
Great find -25 years ago they were rare but obtainable..but noww fergetaboutit most get pieced together 1,800 or so missing what it is --could you take some photos of the headstock for the badge hole placement and the unique Bering races my all time favorite bike
 

LuckyArt

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Sep 3, 2018
19
25
67
Foothills, Ca.
#11
Thanks for the good words. I really do feel incredibly lucky and fortunate to have rescued this bike from it’s dark, dusty, bird poop covered tomb in a barn. I had been trying to get the owner to let me get to it for a year or so, it was always blocked by hay bales. I had no idea what the bike was, but was drawn to it for some reason instead of the one I thought was older and in better condition. Thanks to your forums, I realized I had a truly great find. I’m posting the pics of the headstock and the seat(saddle?). Any info on this saddle? The first two pics of the saddle are before hosing the bike off. I did not brush or scrub anything, just rinsed.

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bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
20,582
4,967
Chicago area west
#14
Thanks for the good words. I really do feel incredibly lucky and fortunate to have rescued this bike from it’s dark, dusty, bird poop covered tomb in a barn. I had been trying to get the owner to let me get to it for a year or so, it was always blocked by hay bales. I had no idea what the bike was, but was drawn to it for some reason instead of the one I thought was older and in better condition. Thanks to your forums, I realized I had a truly great find. I’m posting the pics of the headstock and the seat(saddle?). Any info on this saddle? The first two pics of the saddle are before hosing the bike off. I did not brush or scrub anything, just rinsed.

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saddle....Kool!!!!
 

LuckyArt

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Sep 3, 2018
19
25
67
Foothills, Ca.
#16
I couldn’t quite read the first word of the saddle. I can see now the words, it also has “1910” under the words. Any info on this saddle, I figured it was probably changed from original.
 

LuckyArt

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Sep 3, 2018
19
25
67
Foothills, Ca.
#18
Yes, I think “Persons Maximus for Pedal Cycles. 1910”. Not correct, but I think it’s pretty cool! Any idea if the 1910 is a date or a model #?
 
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LuckyArt

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Sep 3, 2018
19
25
67
Foothills, Ca.
#19
Ok, I did some more cleaning, came up with a complete serial number, N17537. After researching as much of you guys” incredible amount of research, I think it might be a 1921. This is based on 1) Curved rear cross member, 1) triple(quadruple) fork plates, 3) stepped chainring, 4) split crank cover, 5) fender flares available on my frame type in 1921, and 6) the cast chain adjuster. I’m not sure of the dates associated with the letter prefix, but I’ve seen the prefix “K” around as a 1917 or 1918, so that would make mine one of the last flared fender models. Am I close? These forums are amazing, thank you all for your input. Oh yea, I cleaned up the brake unit, it is a “New Departure”.
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LuckyArt

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Sep 3, 2018
19
25
67
Foothills, Ca.
#20
Bikejunk asked that I post better pics of the headstock, showing the badge placement holes. Here they are. The holes are about 1 5/8” up from the bottom bearing , 1 3/4” down from the top bearing. The first thing I plan on spending money on is a head badge, any Hendee Indian ones available? Were there two different hole locations for the 1917-23 badges? Thought I heard that somewhere. Thanks, Art


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