Little Colson

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  1. #1 Posted Jul 30, 2017

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    Hey guys. I just picked up this Colson 20". It's a really neat little bike. Looks like original paint or an old restoration. I checked for a date code and only found a serial number (pictures below). I've read that Colson didn't start date coding separate from the serial number until 1938 but I can't imagine this bike pre-dates that. The seller says it's prewar. I can't tell. A penny for your two cents?

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  2. #2 Posted Jul 30, 2017

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    Forgot the serial number.

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    Well, here's my two cents since I'm by no means a Colson bicycle (of any size) expert. I'm only going by the paint scheme and colors which are identical to Colson tricycles of around the 1950 time period, along with the rubber topped Troxel saddle. Not sure how many years they used the same basic paint scheme or how far back (pre war?) it was applied, but if the seat is original I really don't believe it to be old enough to be pre-war. Just my thoughts FWIW.

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    Hi, Dave. Thanks for the reply. I hadn't thought of looking at 30's and 40's era tricycles to find matching characteristics, but it was really helpful. I found that some 1940's Colson tricycles had the same paint scheme as my little Colson. I also found a few 1930's Colson tricycles that had the same Troxel rubber topped seat. Then I looked at the 1954 Colson catalog and found the model 3204. It looks like mine with a different head badge. Then I noticed that my head badge is held in place by screws and not rivets. I've never noticed screws holding on a head badge, so it could be a replacement. But then, mine is a skip tooth. Last, I found that several 1941 Colson models used the same chain guard as mine. Sooo, I still have no idea. Probably more info than you wanted.
     
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    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    Thinking it's around a '41 as well. I have a crusty ladies '41 looptail in the same paint scheme.
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    This is just a guess going by paint scheme really. I don't have access to my Colson book right now, but I'm sure there's some info on this little guy in there.
     
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    Hey, Mike. If it's not a hassle would you mind posting a photo of your looptail's serial number?
     
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    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    That was fast. Thanks. I thought that would help clarify the similarities. I was wrong. Lol
     
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    =/>1950. The bike looks bone stock, and that brake arm didn't come out until the 1950 model year from what I've seen.

    From the Colson book, 1953 catalog page

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    Well that would explain why my serial number is so much higher than Mike's. Anyone know if Colson serials were sequential for all models?

    Thanks rustjunkie. I seem that have a gift for buying early bikes that aren't all that early. I wonder if the head badge is wrong then.
     
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    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    Nah, like Scott(Rustjunkie) said, it looks pretty legit & untouched. Nice lil bike there. What are your plans? Display or a gift for what's gonna be the coolest lil kid on the block?:sunglasses:
     
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    Mike, I'm just going to knock the grime off and display it in the house. I'll post a pic when I find a spot for it. Do you have any idea whether that badge is too early for the bike? It's held in place by screws.
     
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    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    I bet its orig. Colson usually used screws, but I'm not familiar with their juvenile line.
     
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    Well I'm glad to hear that. An early 50s bike that's all there is pretty awesome.
     
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    Cute! Postwar rear dropouts. Compare to Mike's rear prewar dropouts.
     
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    Thanks, Dave. Here's where it ended up...

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    That's perfect!!!
     
  19. #19 Posted Aug 6, 2017

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    Looks great up there.
     
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