Messinger Sliding rail saddle info

[kreika]

Howdy!

Did Messinger make the sliding rail saddle pre and post war? If so how do tell a pre war from post war?

Thank you,
Chris

 

[tripple3]

Snap taken from the 1938 Island catalog so definitely prewar and post war. I’m not sure what the differences.
Edited, Thanks Shawn.

 

[Freqman1]

I think that is the '38 catalog. I'm sure @bobcycles can give us the short answer here but I think there are at least a couple variations of this seat to include a 'regular' and 'deep' pan but don't know if there is really any difference between the sliding rail seats used early post war. V/r Shawn

 

[kreika]

Thank you!!!

 

[rustjunkie]

From what I’ve seen:
The spring rods are permanently attached to the pan on postwar, the clamp is slightly dif, and the nose spring doesn’t stick out as far.

 

[Freqman1]

It would be great to see some pics comparing the differences0-especially clamp and nose spring. Also 'deep' pan and 'regular' V/r Shawn

 

[kreika]

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/prewar-sliding-rail-seat-200-00.134039/#post-902555

This is the saddle I was curious about.

 

[kreika]

From what I’ve seen:
The spring rods are permanently attached to the pan on postwar, the clamp is slightly dif, and the nose spring doesn’t stick out as far.

Would you consider this the permanently attached style or early style? Ty!

 

[STRADALITE]

Would you consider this the permanently attached style or early style? Ty!
View attachment 837484

Here’s what the top side of the permanently attached one looks like.
Try to unscrew it. You’ll find out which style you have.

 

[kreika]

Here’s what the top side of the permanently attached one looks like.
Try to unscrew it. You’ll find out which style you have.
View attachment 837516

Thank you. Seat is no longer for sale so I guess I’ll never know....