Mid 20's Hawthorne Rust Project!


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Monarky

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 29, 2012
461
70
Ontario, California
#21
First... Thank you all for the good words! Yes, I do all my own paint work the comes from years of restoring classic cars, and to me it's all about the prep (wet sanding) and having all of the pitting filled and level. As you can see
on my latest, I had my work cut out for me. After media blasting the very best in my opinion is a catalyzed poly primer or auto primer with high build. Even though you'll wet sand 80% of this off it gets things strait. You can't really use a block but instead I like as much as six layers of 220 folded over itself to create a curved block. A guide coat in black is a must! This will show all imperfections and tell you when to stop. It does get tricky at the joints
and is something you perfect over the years, I think of it as a sculpture. Unfortunately you won't know how well you've done until the clear is laid on. Then you make adjustments on the next project, the years tick by and eventually you'll get good at it. As far as the actual painting goes, it also has it's challenges on these complex tubes and directions you have to hit for good coverage. Not enough (too dry) too much (runs!), the trick is to get a full wet coat or two and walk away! Easier said then done maybe and it's definitely a case of practice makes perfect. As for the paint itself... I use quite often spray cans for my base coat. Higher end art stores stock a great selection
of colors to choose from (pictured here). I came up with a way to have my top coat (clear) and over all paint job not look too glossy and too new looking! It's a catalyzed auto clear that I mix with a new FLAT clear of the same type. (2 parts flat w/ 1 part gloss) Not cheap, it'll set you back $125. in materials alone but it give the apparence of a well cared for older original paint. I do other crazy things to my clear like transparent toners in the to push the base color to exactly where I want it to be (making the color look older). I'd like to say "That's all it takes!" but really this is mostly a jump off point, the rest just takes time/ trial & error! Maybe I've gotten too in depth but I hope this helps some of you out there. As for the plating, Yes, it's Nickel plating. I do this for all my bike projects, it's warmer and just looks better!

P.S. I live in Glendale

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Hi Lawrence, this is Monarky again and I have another question. My Hawthorne Flyer frame came primered so I don't have any of the original markings as a guide to go by and was wondering if you can help me with some measurements and pictures of the fork and frame two tone makings(diamonds or triangles) before I go to paint it. Please let me know...I live in Ontario and work in L.A, so you are local. Thanks
P.S..I also have the two original wood clad rims and did know that they can still be used.
 

Lraybike

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 2, 2011
212
17
Glendale California
#22
Hawthorne Info

I'm glad to share whatever I can to help but lets just do it over the phone it'll be easier. I'll PM you my info.
 

Lraybike

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 2, 2011
212
17
Glendale California
#23
I'd like to find one of these!

If anyone has a beed on one of these sirens, I'd love to know about it? I did post it in WTB but... Thanks for any info? Lawrence

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Lraybike

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 2, 2011
212
17
Glendale California
#25
Believe it or not!

Believe it or not I had a response asking why I restored an original bike! Now, don't get me wrong I love an original unrestored bike like the best of them but REALLY!... please tell me that the majority of you out there don't see what I've done as blasphemy!? And that side by side, if you had to choose between the two you'd take the shinny new one? I'll try to redeem myself and prove I don't restore everything that ends up at my house. HaHa (see pre 1933)

P.S. I was just having a conversation with the Hawthorne and asked... She sat up strait, cracked her knuckles, kinda threw her head back & forth as to loosen her neck and looked at me with this absurd look and said...
"HELL NO!, in fact now that I'm all dressed up, what are you doing tonight? Let's go do something!" I think she approves. L
 

Lraybike

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 2, 2011
212
17
Glendale California
#27
Thank you

Thank you, It went from completely unridable to very ridable in 167 easy steps!
 

wayne hermes

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Apr 13, 2008
17
0
Ryderwood, United States
#29
whats the chance of seeing this bike on the next cyclone coaster ride sunday December 1st???? it would be a real treat!!!
 

Oldnut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Oct 30, 2012
890
481
Dayton,oh
#31
Motorbikes

Love seeing this beautiful restoration done.i have seen a lot of interest in these motorbikes lately.the tanks,racks and drop stands prices have escalated lately.are these 28 bikes the new hot item? I've done a few and they ride like glass
 

Larmo63

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Aug 17, 2010
4,356
457
San Clemente, Ca
#34
Lawrence already brought this to a ride and my, what a nice ride it is....!

Beautiful and lovingly restored, this guy is a true craftsman. Guitars, old

cars and planes, he can do it all.
 

stoney

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jul 19, 2013
2,851
2,191
64
Fuquay Varina, NC, United States
#35
Wow, very nice job. Love the gray and black paint. Did you get that Flyer headlight that sold on Ebay yesterday. Hope so.
 

gary10509

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Nov 28, 2014
10
0
Fort Wayne, IN
#38
That's inspiring. I have a project in the same shape and have just finished the disassembly. It's a 1916 Schwinn built private label. I won't paint or plate myself, but want to do as much prep work as I can before handing it over. I can see the slightest hints of the paint under the rust in a few places and am going to hit it with steel wool to try and reveal the original colors. What grade of steel wool is safe for this purpose? And do you use anything with the steel wool to help the process along? WD40? Degreaser? Pentrating oil? etc. Thanks for any advice. Gary
 

bikecrazy

I live for the CABE
Dec 8, 2011
1,023
288
Mentor, United States
#39
Restoration was the right choice! It is really nice to see what these bikes looked like when they were new! The plating really looks great.
 

pedal_junky

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Dec 16, 2011
2,053
2,550
Statesville NC
#40
Hey Gary, if you're just looking for the original color, look behind the badge, or inside the bottom bracket. But if you're just trying to uncover and remove rust, then yes, 0000 steel wool and wd-40 works pretty good. Along with patience . You should start a thread, I'd like to see what you have.
 

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