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Mini Ideor track bike, anyone have info on these?

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Robertriley

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Mini Ideor track bike, anyone have info on these? It's just cool but I don't know the first thing about it. What's your thoughts on Date Made? Value? Rarity? Was it a kids racers or a dealer sample?
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sworley

Wore out three sets of tires already!
I don't know any details but I always thought these lil bikes make great wall decor and ceiling hangers for display. I'd buy it just for that! Any guesses what size wheels those are?
 

dnc1

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
They built bikes with 24 inch diameter wheels for juniors track racing.
Quality Italian manufacturers.
I'm thinking 60's, maybe 70's.
I can't tell what size wheels you have on there, but even without tyres they look too small for that frameset.
Way too much clearance between fork crown and rim.
Does it feature Magistroni headset and cranks/chainring?
Nice find.
 

juvela

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
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Wow!

upon reading the header was expecting a machine with 600A size wheels but this looks to be clearly smaller

the rims should carry a marking - are they something such as 500A?

the Ideor Asso marque was produced by the firm Soc. Acc. Torello G. & C. of Savona from about 1927 to 1963

poster of 1939 -
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business card of 1940 -
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replacement transfers available from forum member Gus Salmon-
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adult road model of the 1930's -
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catalogue page of 1962 -
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some additional information and photos here -


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Robertriley

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Here's some specs
wheel diameter - 38cm - 15" (sew up rims)
Wheel base - 75cm- 29.5"
Seat tube - 40cm - 15.75"
op tube - 42cm - 16.5"
 

juvela

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
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thank you Chris for this additional information 😉

one thing am wondering about -

due to the cycle's very small size suspect frame may be constructed of a juvenile tube set

would be curious to learn the tube diameters

the usual "junior racer" bicycles have 24"/600A wheels and their frames are constructed of adult dimension tubing

there is such a thing as a juvenile tube set

would expect we might find a steerer and top tube of 23.0mm and down and seat tubes of 26.0mm

when a juvenile tube set is employed it makes everything "special" such as headset, stem, lugs (if employed) which would not need to be special on a larger juvenile which employed adult dimension tubing. they often exhibit lugless construction to get around the lug sizing problem.

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did run across another juvenile Ideor machine a few years back; do not know if genuine -

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fittings on subject cycle -

chainset Magistroni

pedals by Noli-Cattaneo, Sheffield Corsa Nr. 655

hubs "probably" Fratelli Brivio, regardless how marked

headset not the usual Ideor-Magistroni one might expect due to likely small steerer size, unknown

one-piece stem/bar set appears it may be Ambrosio

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wheel size, here is a chart which jumps from 14" to 16" and from 350 to 400. your measured dimension seems to fall in between.

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links -

manufacturer catalogue of 1939, includes images of factory interior



lively Ideor discussion over at BF with lots of information and imagery


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corbettclassics

I live for the CABE
I saw that IDEOR JR model on Facebook and thought how rare that little guy is..!!!!

I bought mine ( not the JR ) from the original owner but not the "ASSO" model. It is the "IDEOR SUPER" which was apparently the top of the line Track Racer.

Owner told me it was 1954. I'll have to find better pics but rare to find any IDEOR bike.

I'm positive Montrose Bike Shop is still there. I've been going there for 30 yrs. They used to display several TOC racers on the wall as well as the Schwinn Pacing bike by Letourner. I have several photos from inside the shop. The private attic had lots of amazing memorabilia not on display.

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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline

juvela

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
I saw that IDEOR JR model on Facebook and thought how rare that little guy is..!!!!

I bought mine ( not the JR ) from the original owner but not the "ASSO" model. It is the "IDEOR SUPER" which was apparently the top of the line Track Racer.

Owner told me it was 1954. I'll have to find better pics but rare to find any IDEOR bike.

I'm positive Montrose Bike Shop is still there. I've been going there for 30 yrs. They used to display several TOC racers on the wall as well as the Schwinn Pacing bike by Letourner. I have several photos from inside the shop. The private attic had lots of amazing memorabilia not on display.

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thanks so much for posting - what a beauty! 😃

ironically in the range of road models the Super is the bottom of hierarchy

the top three models are constructed of Columbus and the Super is constructed of Mannesmann

here is a catalogue page for the Super road model of 1962 -
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the bulge-formed head of a Super road model -

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one interesting thing regarding the Super road model is that a lady's model was offered as well as the gents, termed the La Signora -

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Ideor Asso marked hubset -

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Ideor marked spanner -

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evidently a folder was included in the model range -

this poster states he has one -

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