Monark Built TANKLESS 5bar thread(Hawthorne Twin)

[Krakatoa]

Yep!

Nice rare find! I can help with that fork alignment if you need it!

 

[cyclingday]

Really psyched to finally have gotten one of these to study up close. It's as cool as it looks or cooler than in the HTB ad copy. I wish I could report it as a find but it was a DOND and I did pay up but luckily it was not a bloodbath lol. Glad to keep the seat and it's proceeds circulating in New England! Big thanks to Paul @tech549

I do have someone in mind to have re make the top but I'm not sure what their availability/workload/inclination is just yet. Not sure on the condition of the inner pan as well so that's another potential issue. I don't know if there is a suitable oil cloth type material still available so that is a major consideration. It would almost seem as if if you were going to go through the trouble to recover it you would do it in leather but I don't know the answer if this saddle was offered in oil cloth and leather or just oil cloth and for that matter how long the saddle was produced for. It also looks like a real challenge to recreate the rear section. The pan does not continue under and support the rear overhang which must have been stiffened with an (unknown material) back in the day. Plenty of issues to overcome before this saddle rides again! It's not going to be easy nor cheap but well worth doing right.

I seem to remember seeing some literature about these Streamlined Troxel’s being available in leather as well as the oil cloth.
I just can’t remember ever seeing a leather top on a Hawthorne Twin Bar.
All of the as found bikes in this thread, had the oil cloth top, which fared about as well as the bikes themselves.
Totally thrashed!
Lol!

 

[Krakatoa]

That is something I've been asking myself recently as well, whether a leather version was also made. I wouldn't think the saddle was produced for very long, otherwise it might show up more often. Does anybody recall other bikes that came with this saddle? It'd be interesting to see if you could find that old ad copy Marty. Don't you have a really nice original on your htb?

 

[fordmike65]

I seem to remember seeing some literature about these Streamlined Troxel’s being available in leather as well as the oil cloth.
I just can’t remember ever seeing a leather top on a Hawthorne Twin Bar.
All of the as found bikes in this thread, had the oil cloth top, which fared about as well as the bikes themselves.
Totally thrashed!
Lol!

Like I told you recently. These poor underappreciated bikes really are the red-headed step child of the vintage bicycle hobby.

 

[cyclingday]

That is something I've been asking myself recently as well, whether a leather version was also made. I wouldn't think the saddle was produced for very long, otherwise it might show up more often. Does anybody recall other bikes that came with this saddle? It'd be interesting to see if you could find that old ad copy Marty. Don't you have a really nice original on your htb?

I probably saw the advertisement in an American Bicyclists magazine.
I’ll thumb through them to see if I can find it.
Unfortunately, the original saddle that WAS on my bike when it was found, got pilfered and restored into a tool box type. Uggh!
So the saddle that is on the bike now, is a very nicely restored leather one.
I got it from Brant, but don’t know who recovered it.

 

[fordmike65]

Another Blue! Popped up on southern Oregon CL recently. Per usual beat to crap! These bikes get no respect!

 

[cyclingday]

Nice Bike, Mike!
It’s good to see an original blue survivor for a change.
Streamlined Troxel and all!
Way cool!
Interesting to note, that it looks like it has a New Departure coaster brake hub, instead of a Morrow.
I guess that kind of puts to bed, the debate over the literature stating that the red bikes came with a New Departure, and the blue bikes came with a Morrow.

 

[Krakatoa]

Mike you can make some mittens out of all that winter fluff on the Troxel!

Very nice!!

 

[Dave Stromberger]

+1. Will need proper fenders, light, rack, etc. Seat is actually leather, not oilcloth, which is unusual. This one turned up on eBay in the "Buy it Now" ticker at the top, up there ^^^^.

 

[cyclingday]

Wow!
That one is actually in pretty nice condition compared to how they usually turn up.
The leather saddle looks fantastic!