Joe Sandschulte
'Lil Knee Scuffer
Hi Folks!
I'm new to this group and have read various posts over the last few years while looking for info. So as you can see by my post title, I'm looking for some help with Monark Super Deluxe numbers. I saw a post with listings starting with the year 1934-1942(?) for stamped numbers on the bottom of the bottom bracket shell then a gap during WWII. Then it starts again with 1946-19##.
My query is for a client ( I own a mobile bike shop) that's has no idea what they have except that the bike and frame with parts are old and are Monarks. I'm not posting pics as I'm not looking for values and the light in Seattle is not good this time of year plus I really don't have time to do extensive pics.. Just trying to confirm some info that seems mixed up. All I want is the year based on the numbers. I've included some info on parts on the bike and what's available for the frame/fork. We'll do pics once everything is squared away. If anyone here bids on this on ebay or is interested, when the time comes, I'll personally pack everything.
Bike 1 model #/ serial number) Mod; 4406; 118143 (stamped on alloy plate). Bike is nearly complete but here are some features (correct or incorrect). Maroon paint w/ cream accents. Has tail "light" reflector I saw on a 1947 posted (bulky but a nice aero look), dog leg cranks (though I suspect these were changed as all pics I see are traditional one-piece cranks); Skip tooth chainwheel and cog; tank with horn button on right; double spring fork, correct stem/bar; chain link blackwall tires. Missing: rack; pedestal headlight; Seat. So what's odd is that on the Cabe postings I've seen, the horn button on right says 48-49-50 but the serial number indicates 1946. What gives? A note about the tank, seems a past owner may have welded the right hand tank half brackets to the lower "top tube" so the tank sits to far aft on the frame. Darn it. Also missing are the upside down cone shaped covers for springs.
Frame/fork with parts 2) Mod: 4400 C, #1193679 (stamped on alloy plate). What I have, Frame (maroon repaint w/o cream accents). All the fork and springer parts except headset and rubber bumpers and upside down cone covers (replacement headset easy to get); rack and rear rack trim; fenders/struts; tank halves; chainguard; decals, crankset; chainwheel (standard and skiptooth). Missing except as previously noted: wheels; tires/tubes; frt light and rear reflector (I have a later housing); bar/stem/grips; horn; chain. As noted previously, frame/fork/ springer all repainted maroon along with the fenders. No cream accents. All the "accessories" are painted red.
Thank you
Campyjoe
I'm new to this group and have read various posts over the last few years while looking for info. So as you can see by my post title, I'm looking for some help with Monark Super Deluxe numbers. I saw a post with listings starting with the year 1934-1942(?) for stamped numbers on the bottom of the bottom bracket shell then a gap during WWII. Then it starts again with 1946-19##.
My query is for a client ( I own a mobile bike shop) that's has no idea what they have except that the bike and frame with parts are old and are Monarks. I'm not posting pics as I'm not looking for values and the light in Seattle is not good this time of year plus I really don't have time to do extensive pics.. Just trying to confirm some info that seems mixed up. All I want is the year based on the numbers. I've included some info on parts on the bike and what's available for the frame/fork. We'll do pics once everything is squared away. If anyone here bids on this on ebay or is interested, when the time comes, I'll personally pack everything.
Bike 1 model #/ serial number) Mod; 4406; 118143 (stamped on alloy plate). Bike is nearly complete but here are some features (correct or incorrect). Maroon paint w/ cream accents. Has tail "light" reflector I saw on a 1947 posted (bulky but a nice aero look), dog leg cranks (though I suspect these were changed as all pics I see are traditional one-piece cranks); Skip tooth chainwheel and cog; tank with horn button on right; double spring fork, correct stem/bar; chain link blackwall tires. Missing: rack; pedestal headlight; Seat. So what's odd is that on the Cabe postings I've seen, the horn button on right says 48-49-50 but the serial number indicates 1946. What gives? A note about the tank, seems a past owner may have welded the right hand tank half brackets to the lower "top tube" so the tank sits to far aft on the frame. Darn it. Also missing are the upside down cone shaped covers for springs.
Frame/fork with parts 2) Mod: 4400 C, #1193679 (stamped on alloy plate). What I have, Frame (maroon repaint w/o cream accents). All the fork and springer parts except headset and rubber bumpers and upside down cone covers (replacement headset easy to get); rack and rear rack trim; fenders/struts; tank halves; chainguard; decals, crankset; chainwheel (standard and skiptooth). Missing except as previously noted: wheels; tires/tubes; frt light and rear reflector (I have a later housing); bar/stem/grips; horn; chain. As noted previously, frame/fork/ springer all repainted maroon along with the fenders. No cream accents. All the "accessories" are painted red.
Thank you
Campyjoe