Murray serial number project.


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kngtmat

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jul 31, 2011
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Auburndale, FL
I know it's late but yes that green Murray is from 1997 that Wald had on their stems since the late 70's. Murray brought the JC Higgins name back in the late 90's as well as the Mercury name and reintroduced springer's to them on some models like Schwinn's springer's.


The post I originally came to do is add that when they started putting the serial numbers on the head tube the numbers are put on both sides. Left was I guessing serial while the right side is for the Murray model numbers found in Murray's catalogs.
 

Jeffrey

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Jul 9, 2017
11
4
48
Woodstock, IL
Hi, I just picked up this Hiawatha bike from a friend for free. He was going to put it on the curb. I was wondering if anyone could help me out with the year and model. It's a great riding bike. Just needs a few minor adjustments. He unfortunately spray painted the frame. There isn't any rust on the frame. Minor rust from old scratches and dings on the fenders. I would love to restore it for my wife if it's worth it to do so. Otherwise just use it as is. If there's anyone that can offer additional info it would be greatly appreciated! Not sure if it's supposed to have a faux tank or not. It's pretty stripped down. I'm not sure where or if I can find any original parts, front emblem, tank (if it's supposed to have one) and decals. Also if anyone could recommend the best way to bring back its original color and remove rust from fenders? Thanks in advance!!
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Cheers

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Gonzo

On Training Wheels
Jul 23, 2017
2
0
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Leavenworth, KS, United States
My wife found a really clean bike in the basement of a house we just bought. I can tell that it is probably a 1968 bike but that is all The only markings on it were stickers (Murray, 10 Speed and Racer on the down tube). I did locate what I think is the Serial number on the head tube - Murray 10 Speed Racer m08 007174T4910860
 

Adamtinkerer

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 8, 2008
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Western North carolina
My wife found a really clean bike in the basement of a house we just bought. I can tell that it is probably a 1968 bike but that is all The only markings on it were stickers (Murray, 10 Speed and Racer on the down tube). I did locate what I think is the Serial number on the head tube - Murray 10 Speed Racer m08 007174T4910860
Murray serials didn't move to the head tube til around 1980.
 

Adamtinkerer

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 8, 2008
3,310
420
Western North carolina
I assumed 1968 because it started with what I thought was M08. Not so sure now that I look at it again. Maybe I'm misreading it. See pic below
MO8 would be '68 if it was on the rear dropout. Companies often repeated numbers and sequences. Some '70s up Murrays have a build date decal just above the cranks, on the seat post tube. Also, '71-'79 bikes have the BMA/6 decal below the seat clamp.
 

rollfaster

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Dec 28, 2012
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Ol' st. Lou
Hi, I just picked up this Hiawatha bike from a friend for free. He was going to put it on the curb. I was wondering if anyone could help me out with the year and model. It's a great riding bike. Just needs a few minor adjustments. He unfortunately spray painted the frame. There isn't any rust on the frame. Minor rust from old scratches and dings on the fenders. I would love to restore it for my wife if it's worth it to do so. Otherwise just use it as is. If there's anyone that can offer additional info it would be greatly appreciated! Not sure if it's supposed to have a faux tank or not. It's pretty stripped down. I'm not sure where or if I can find any original parts, front emblem, tank (if it's supposed to have one) and decals. Also if anyone could recommend the best way to bring back its original color and remove rust from fenders? Thanks in advance!!
#J27898
Cheers

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This is an Evans Colson built bike.
 
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avanti

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 17, 2014
37
36
Culver City, United States
I acquired this 1939/40 Murray-Ohio made double-bar at a recent storage auction...

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It has a serial number beginning with MD and I was wondering if anyone knows what these letters denote?
A 1939/40 Derby Speedster recently turned up on eBay, which had a serial beginning with MD. Am I right to assume that the the M stands for "Murray" and the D for "Derby" or do these letters show up on Murray's other brands such as Elgin and Western Flyer? If possible, I'd like to put the correct badge on this beauty and get it back on the road.

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Below are images of the serial numbers on both frames:

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If it is a Derby, I'm going to need a an emblem like this. Anyone have one?

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Original 1940 advert showing the Derby Speedster...

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Derby maybe?

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avanti

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 17, 2014
37
36
Culver City, United States
Apparently, Murray serial codes did not start with MO in 1939 so it looks like the database should be revised. As pictured above, both of the 1939 frames begin with MD (with D indicating 1939). Does anyone know if there is a way to determine the sub-brand (i.e. Derby, Elgin, Western Flyer) from the other numbers? We know that MD10029 is a 1939 Derby but what about my frame (MD21862)? If there are other 1939 Murray / Elgin / Derby / Western Flyer owners out there, please feel free to chime in.

p.s. Found this December, 1939 Pep Boys ad featuring the Derby Speedster.

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