My great grandfathers Waltham orient

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  1. #1 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    49865A8E-2BCF-49B8-9274-AE42CF306F88.jpeg Hi all. Organizing my family’s barn attic and I took down my great grandfathers Waltham bicycle to get some fresh air. He would ride this bike to Boston (45 miles) and to New Hampshire’s sea coast (also a 40+ mile trip)

    We will never part with this bicycle but I’d like to learn more about it and if anyone can tell me anything interesting about it I’d really appreciate it!

    Also one side of the front fork is broken so the tire will not stay on. Luckily the broken piece is still bolted on to the tire. I’d like to get it repaired, not to ride just so it will display better. Is there anywhere in the southern nh or mass that you can recommend to fix it?

    Thanks so much!
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  2. #2 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    Riding an Alexander Rocket Bike

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    Very nice bike!!!
     
  3. #3 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    Thanks! Anyone have an idea of year built and model so I can do some more research on my own?
     
  4. #4 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    I live for the CABE

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    That should display beautifully, when you get done with a light cleaning and repairing!
    And with that personal History to boot! :cool:
     
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    Am diggin' this ride ... and those auxiliary
    grips in the central area of the handlebar.

    Can you please take a snap of the broken
    part of the fork that you mentioned ?

    One of your snaps now has some questions
    added to it ... see foto attached.

    Thank you -- QuincyB .....

    ......
    patric

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  6. #6 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    I have the same bike, smaller frame size, maybe a year newer, few differences
    my headbadge porcelein insert is white and red and says Orient Light Roadster

    I also have the ladies version, all same characteristics, with a serial number a few # higher than yours, also with a B on the steel insert
    the headbadge porcelein insert is white and green, no model mentioned, but has a Crescent moon, a star and a saber on the badge, the ORIENT letters have little reflective dots on it

    ***While here, I am missing a cap on the top of one the rear stay (next to seat post), maybe someone has a spare
     
  7. #7 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    Any welding shop or machine shop close to you should be able to repair that fork,
    i would only bring them the fork, keep everything else at home safe.
     
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    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    Thanks all for the info and comments so far. I’m going home in a little bit and will measure and take some more close up pics.
     
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  9. #9 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    Beautiful! Thank you for sharing.
     
  10. #10 Posted Mar 17, 2018

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Ceramic inserts made by Waltham Watch Co. D35E69B0-8B1A-4FE4-8AFF-34787CB0E62B.jpeg AD4F2CAF-4228-4ADC-92CD-AE99FA00A839.jpeg 4B971B45-D880-454F-9799-4DAE09BE325B.jpeg
     
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    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Carefully remove badge and soak it in a hot mild liquid dishwashing soap and use soft terry cloth rag to rub off paint and crud
     
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    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    Here are my 2 inserts.

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    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    So glad you are keeping this in the family! Congrats on this wonderful piece of family history.
     
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    I live for the CABE

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    Very cool QuincyB thank you for sharing, I agree with all of the good comments. Very nice piece of American history.
    Thank you,
    Sean
     
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    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    Hi Patrick. The measurement from crank to seat post is 26”. The other measurement is 10.5”. Here is a pic of the fork damage. Thank you for your help
     
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    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    17B1B6AC-2F21-4F8B-801D-AE5F84083382.jpeg I found a fender and a chain guard (I think) I have three other old bikes that the could belong to but the paint looks like it could be the same. Do these go to this bike?

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    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    A good local machinist or welder can fix your fork.
    The fender doesn't belong with your bike and the other part is a chain guard off a ladies bicycle.


    You should keep the wheel off the bike for now, everytime you move the bike, you risk tearing the other side of the fork off. It's already torn.
     
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    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    Perfect I didn’t think the fender fit but good to know for sure. Thank you
     
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    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    I would not take what I said to be certain. There are guys here with a lot more knowledge than me that might have some input. I am only comparing to my bikes.
     
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