Need help with ID

[Rus Tea]

Hope some one can offer some help in making an Id. The tubes seem to be drawn and seamed. the number on the right of the seat tube is 245687, two patents are listed on the BB Dec. 3 1895 May 29 1900

 

[redline1968]

ivers johnson.........

 

[DonChristie]

^^^I was thinking that also. Serial number is in the right place. How many holes for the headbadge? IJs have 3 holes. Any other parts with it?

 

[Rus Tea]

Thanks for the reply! There are two holes for the badge , verticle at 3 3/4'" cc. All the others parts are of a later period, the only other piece I think maybe original to the frame is the Chainwheel.

 

[redline1968]

boy, if that dosent look like a schwinn chain ring. should have 3 holes for iver. possibly ccm?

 

[bairdco]

i know Colson's used a sweetheart sprocket, too, but i don't think the bike is a Colson. nice block chain, though...

 

[fat tire trader]

What is the diameter of the bottom bracket shell?
chris ioakimedes
Fairfax, California
www.fattiretrading.com

 

[Rus Tea]

Schwinndoggy I thought the Ivers # run from the top down, these are from the bottom up?

Redline168 The Schwinn Sweetheat has the crank set hole between the hearts, this one is in the heart like a Hawthorn or DP Harris

fat tire trader The BB is 3" cc inside 3 1/8 outsde, the width is 2 5/8.

Found some cool stuff on the patents: the May 29 1900 seems to be for a self fixing seat post http://www.google.com/patents?id=RV...=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

The Dec. 3 1885 is for an extruded BB which this frame has; http://www.google.com/patents?id=7T...=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false



Thanks for the interest in my project. This has got me truly stumped

 

[redline1968]

you should know who did the patents and then you will have your answer for your bike.

 

[Rus Tea]

^^^ That was my orignal thought, but the patents are held by individuals, so I have to see if I can find the purchaser of the patent. Or I'm hoping that something like the unique seat post( may 29 Patent) will be a clue. So far, no luck.