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scooter_trasher

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 12, 2015
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#3
Thanks , I'm so geeked original showroom rust, matching short & long ,red and black fenders, mirrors, streamers and tires that come with air!
My friends think it's ugly, gold finger :)
 
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skiptooth

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 1, 2017
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Tehachapi CA
#4
Does the seat post clamp have a rib in the middle ? if so its 1948 to 1953! nice find narrow tank 3 gill ( cwc ) did the previous rider walk thru pep boys w/ a magnet ? just kidding ! enjoy...Richard....
 

scooter_trasher

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 12, 2015
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#5
Wont see it up close till I can make the road trip tomorrow, seller listed it as a forties bike, looks about right.
 

tripple3

Riding Miles; Collecting Smiles
Sep 25, 2012
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31,441
Beach Cities, CA 92708
#8
I bought a DP Harris built Ben Hur a few years ago, that some people argued, til they were blue in the face had the wrong forks untill I found it in a 1938 catalogue :)
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I think both these frames and front sprocket are CWC
This fresh "Basket Bike" looks like it has a Schwinn fork; but they look pretty close other than paint dart remnants.
I also thought D.P. Harris bikes and Rollfast all were "Snyder" Built in N.Y.
 

skiptooth

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 1, 2017
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Tehachapi CA
#9
One thing I've found is the 5/8 seat post is allways cwc...and the paper boy bike fork is correct...hope this helps ? Richard...
 

scooter_trasher

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 12, 2015
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#10
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I think both these frames and front sprocket are CWC
This fresh "Basket Bike" looks like it has a Schwinn fork; but they look pretty close other than paint dart remnants.
I also thought D.P. Harris bikes and Rollfast all were "Snyder" Built in N.Y.
Yep HP Snyder built it DP Harris distributed it , and VanDecamp wholesaled it to hardware stores , my point is don't jump to conclusions that parts are wrong,for instance a lot of parts got used in the late thirties due to buyouts that wouldn't normally go on a brand.
 

scooter_trasher

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 12, 2015
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#11
Got it in the stand to look at the numbers, kickstand is like none I've seen , but I'm no expert, looks kinda like a Schwinn mechanism in a bolt on form, no ridge on seatpost clamp, I'll have some research to do :)

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tripple3

Riding Miles; Collecting Smiles
Sep 25, 2012
6,504
31,441
Beach Cities, CA 92708
#12
Yep HP Snyder built it DP Harris distributed it
I have heard this before; and Rollfast.
This frame is CWC built; made Roadmaster and many other "Brands" as well.
There are some similar features in both manufacturers; but Snyder BB always looks the same from what I've seen.
I also am not an expert.
Postwar B serial but others will nail it closer.
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scooter_trasher

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 12, 2015
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#15
I hear you on the paint, but even at that, that doesn't make the forks an incorrect part,I don't believe Schwinn ,or any other bicycle builder had their own forging plant, and they could have very well sourced from the same supplier,it is pretty obvious the fenders didn't come on the bike either, being that it's blue & white and the fenders are black and red, I'll check for a part number and if it is an exclusive Schwinn forging, maybe I'll use it on one of my Schwinns and put the Monark springer I have on it :)
 

skiptooth

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 1, 2017
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Tehachapi CA
#17
Who is your good looking , 4 legged friend? I've seen that kick stand on some monarks ?
 

skiptooth

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 1, 2017
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Tehachapi CA
#18
Yes its post war and how about that seat post clamp? has a rib? the right side rear drop out has a extra hole for the later chain guard correct?
 

scooter_trasher

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 12, 2015
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#20
I don't know much about them , I'm getting feedback on the serial number thread , that it's likely a 43 , based on serial number & pics, if it is it will be a rare bird , they were only allowed to make bikes for their factory personal use & prototypes after Sept 42, suposadly they started post war production with D series serial numbers, it does have a transitional frame, partly brazed, partly welded, no rib seat-post clamp, no holes in head tube for headbadge, haven't taken the basket off to check the dropouts, was busy drinking beer and watching my pal clean the 61 Huffy Western Flyer I let him get for a case of beer , that he drank most of :)
 
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