New Departure / Corbin Hourglass Hub Conspiracy

[Jesse McCauley]

Just wanted to put a bug in your collective ear.
Nearly identical pair of hubs here, conical washers & races, hourglass form.

I’ve read the Corbin variation stamp often goes unnoticed but if you look closely the Corbin text runs horizontally across the middle of the shell.

I’m “gearing up” to do a front hub specific ID thread so we can get all the weird variations posted together of the 1,000+ different pre-33’ front hubs out there but these two have likely caused a lot of confusion.

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[SKPC]

Jesse. Don't forget the Colson hourglass with no markings whatsoever. Hubs/rims came on a 1933 Colson Flyer with an oiler-free ND rear. Early clincher 26" rims.

 

[Jesse McCauley]

Jesse. Don't forget the Colson hourglass with no markings whatsoever. Hub came laced up on a 1933 Colson Flyer with an oiler-free ND rear and early clincher 26er rims.
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Your thinking is that Colson produced this oversized hourglass hub? Have they talked about that in any lit you've seen?

 

[SKPC]

No I am not saying Colson made it unless some advertising history can say so. It seems 20's & 30's Colsons' ran them. So many metal parts jobbers back then could have supplied it to Colson. Note the sharp flange edges. I will post some exact measurements later which may help..skp

 

[cyclingday]

I’ve heard of a Columbia specific hourglass type hub that adds to the confusion.
When did the little Oiler port clips show up on the New Departure type?
Or was that feature always available, and just a deluxe vs standard type of thing?

 

[New Mexico Brant]

I’ve heard of a Columbia specific hourglass type hub that adds to the confusion.
When did the little Oiler port clips show up on the New Departure type?
Or was that feature always available, and just a deluxe vs standard type of thing?

Edited: reference this thread:
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/question-about-new-departure-model-m-hubs.133489/

 

[cyclingday]

It looks like the oiling port was added in 1918 and phased out in 1930.

Good intel, for building a period correct wheel set.
Huge thanks to @Gary Mc for the astounding research project.
When they make the Cabe, Hall of Fame, you’ll definitely get my vote.

 

[Jesse McCauley]

It looks like the oiling port was added in 1918 and phased out in 1930.View attachment 1073129Good intel, for building a period correct wheel set.
Huge thanks to @Gary Mc for the astounding research project.
When they make the Cabe, Hall of Fame, you’ll definitely get my vote.

Niiicee- this debunks one of my theories regarding the conical washers / races. In this hub we have concurrently: Model M stamp / hourglass shape / flat races / washers

mmmmm sexy information....

 

[olderthandirt]

how much for the above hub ? any chance you have three ? oiler port desired but not a deal breaker ,thanks

 

[Jesse McCauley]

@olderthandirt which hub are you referring to?