new to Antique bikes. Have a Ames and Frost number 86 bike

[INCase]

hello, new here and new to very old bikes. We have acquired an old Ames and Frost model number 86 Imperial bike from my wifes' grandmother. We think it was probably my wife's great grandfather's, maybe ?? great great grandfathers. I don't see much info on the Ames and Frost bikes out there online but it appears it might be about 1901 vintage?

we were wondering if there is a source for information for these. We would like to possibly restore it being an old family piece (unknown if bought new or used or when but has been on the same farm since the family would have bought it) but, unfortunately, due to lack time, bike skills and storage that may not be feasible so we may end up parting with it. Any thoughts on what it might be worth?

seems to be complete with a pedal and a grip missing. of course the old tires are off the wood rims and are hard as a rock. I have not cleaned it up yet so the pictures aren't that great. Last 2 are the better shots of it. Everything seems to turn. has a small leather pouch in the frame under the seat. I presume an aftermarket accessory??

Thank you.

 

[cyclingday]

Welcome to the Cabe.
Fortunately, you’re family heirloom still has its headbadge.
As that tells most of the story.
There are a few members here, that I’m sure, can dive in, and dissect what you’ve got there.
So, be patient and stay tuned.

@Blue Streak, @Jesse McCauley, what say you?
Any insight for our newest member?

PS. Best to do absolutely nothing to it, if your plans are to re sell.
Original is king, no matter what the condition.

 

[stezell]

Very cool TOC bike, leather pouch is a tool bag.

 

[HEMI426]

Welcome to the Cabe, I think before you entertain offers on the bike you should do alot of research on it. The Cabe experts will help with that. You will be better off to be patient. If its a family treasure maybe just keep it in the family. Good luck.

 

[Hastings]

Sold - Sweet OG Paint Men’s TOC Imperial $1,800 Shipped Now $1,500 Shipped! Now $1200 Shipped CRAZY! | Archive (sold or withdrawn)

An original paint "as-found" Imperial by Ames and Frost from Chicago men’s bike. I am guessing 1901- 1902? Paint is really good, excellent OG downtube decal. Good bright parts, rat traps are missing their dust caps. Nice tires, the front is a period Goodyear (both show wear and have some...

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[Gully]

Wow that's fantastic!! I'm staying tuned as well. Welcome!

 

[Blue Streak]

Your Imperial No. 86 looks to be model year 1900. Here are some ads from 1900 newspapers. The 1901 Imperial catalog lists bicycles numbered 104/105, 114/115 and 124/125. See if you can find a serial number on the frame. I don't know where but typically on bottom of frame under crankset.

A nice original condition Imperial Model 84 sold at an auction in February 2021. I don't have a 1900 Imperial catalog so don't know the differences between Model 84 and Model 86.