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rush2112

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Hi Folks, newbie here! I picked up this beauty at an auction near me and I've tried to do my homework on it. It's a 1953 ladies AMF Roadmaster Luxury Liner. I've seen it referred to as a "Christmas edition" and that this color was only offered in 53. I know almost nothing about judging condition, but she appears to be in pretty nice shape. It looks like the headlight fixture may have been replaced because it is a very slightly different color than the frame. Other than that, I'm not sure if anything else has been replaced. The headlight doesn't work but I haven't opened it up to check the battery and bulb. To my surprise and delight, the horn works! The serial number is A70421 53. It's a cool bicycle and I thought I'd share it with you all. I'm not familiar with the rules here, but is it OK to ask about value? Thanks in advance for any info you can share!

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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Very nice, original bike. I have the boys version. Green was one year only as well as that head badge. I don't know where the 'Christmas' fallacy got started but these were offered throughout '53--not just at Christmas. I'll let others comment on value. V/r Shawn
 

rush2112

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Very nice, original bike. I have the boys version. Green was one year only as well as that head badge. I don't know where the 'Christmas' fallacy got started but these were offered throughout '53--not just at Christmas. I'll let others comment on value. V/r Shawn
Thanks so much for your feedback!
 

the tinker

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
GREAT BIKE! I'd like to know the story behind that bike. Had to be stored indoors it's entire life. I've seen original Schwinns that were supposedly never ridden, but hung up as a display in a garage their entire life. I think Schwinn had the best plating of them all, but they were still covered in surface rust. This bike is an exception. I have a feeling there's a sad story behind this bike. Happy for you to get it. Welcome to the CABE
 

rush2112

'Lil Knee Scuffer
GREAT BIKE! I'd like to know the story behind that bike. Had to be stored indoors it's entire life. I've seen original Schwinns that were supposedly never ridden, but hung up as a display in a garage their entire life. I think Schwinn had the best plating of them all, but they were still covered in surface rust. This bike is an exception. I have a feeling there's a sad story behind this bike. Happy for you to get it. Welcome to the CABE
Thanks so much! Yes, even as a clueless amateur, I can tell the condition of the chrome is really exceptional. Would love to know the story behind it also! I might have to follow up with the auctioneer and see if he can tell me anything.
 

Lamont

Finally riding a big boys bike
What a find !

Value is an often asked and ok to ask question here .... and I think you can feel safe that if your out of bounds of forum guidelines , moderators will give a gentle nudge to point you back to within guildelines.

Just a few thoughts to frame your assessment :

- big difference between pre war and post war , so look at post war comps
- Big difference between Ladies Bikes and Men's , sadly Ladies bikes are often in less demand
- The more original and complete, and the higher the model line in the orginal catalog these makes vast difference
- Sum of the parts : complete bikes never sell for but a fraction of the sum of the parts ( this is we your very complete bike is very attractive to buyers versus one missing even just a few OG accessories)

Great resource is the archive of Cabe Classifieds classified sold


Finally , value opinions may be all over the map and some members might express strong feelings one way or the other.... keep an open mind and a thick skin .... just cause someone writes it here doesn't mean any particular price opinion is definitive, and conversely every opinion is a helpful perspective to inform your own view .


All that said ....... My opinion is that anyone looking for a complete post war ladies CWC would not find anything close to the condition you have for less than $650 plus shipping , if they limited the search time to one year AND anyone looking to sell era ladies CWC very complete in this condition or close would wait a long long long ( 2 years plus )time if they wanted to sell for anywhere above $1450 plus shipping

If you were ruthless, and insensitive the moral imperative to keep a nice bike together and wanted to part it out ....... I see no less than $1000 just selling the easiest to move parts and keeping the harder to move parts hung in the garage indefinitely. Lot trips to ups and a lot of emailing in that so really thats just for reference



Anyone see either of my range values off the mark ? anyone think a "low" of $650 is too optimistic ? anyone think a high of $1450 is too low ?


My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it ... But ....

Hopefully my stab gets the ball rolling.... brings some opinions from the guys here that know value.

no less than $650 + s / not more than $1450 + s
 
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rush2112

'Lil Knee Scuffer
What a find !

Value is an often asked and ok to ask question here .... and I think you can feel safe that if your out of bounds of forum guidelines , moderators will give a gentle nudge to point you back to within guildelines.

Just a few thoughts to frame your assessment :

- big difference between pre war and post war , so look at post war comps
- Big difference between Ladies Bikes and Men's , sadly Ladies bikes are often in less demand
- The more original and complete, and the higher the model line in the orginal catalog these makes vast difference
- Sum of the parts : complete bikes never sell for but a fraction of the sum of the parts ( this is we your very complete bike is very attractive to buyers versus one missing even just a few OG accessories)

Great resource is the archive of Cabe Classifieds classified sold


Finally , value opinions may be all over the map and some members might express strong feelings one way or the other.... keep an open mind and a thick skin .... just cause someone writes it here doesn't mean any particular price opinion is definitive, and conversely every opinion is a helpful perspective to inform your own view .


All that said ....... My opinion is that anyone looking for a complete post war ladies CWC would not find anything close to the condition you have for less than $650 plus shipping , if they limited the search time to one year AND anyone looking to sell era ladies CWC very complete in this condition or close would wait a long long long ( 2 years plus )time if they wanted to sell for anywhere above $1450 plus shipping

If you were ruthless, and insensitive the moral imperative to keep a nice bike together and wanted to part it out ....... I see no less than $1000 just selling the easiest to move parts and keeping the harder to move parts hung in the garage indefinitely. Lot trips to ups and a lot of emailing in that so really thats just for reference



Anyone see either of my range values off the mark ? anyone think a "low" of $650 is too optimistic ? anyone think a high of $1450 is too low ?


My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it ... But ....

Hopefully my stab gets the ball rolling.... brings some opinions from the guys here that know value.

no less than $650 + s / not more than $1450 + s

Lance, thanks so much! What a fantastic primer on valuation. I understand its just your opinion, but it's worth a lot more than you give yourself credit for! As tempting as it is, I don't have the heart to part her out. I'd love to see her in the hands of a collector who will cherish her and give her lots of TLC. I appreciate your thoughts on value as well and I'll definitely check out the classifieds. Y'all are a terrific, welcoming group and I appreciate it a lot!
 

TieDye

I live for the CABE
What a find !

Value is an often asked and ok to ask question here .... and I think you can feel safe that if your out of bounds of forum guidelines , moderators will give a gentle nudge to point you back to within guildelines.

Just a few thoughts to frame your assessment :

- big difference between pre war and post war , so look at post war comps
- Big difference between Ladies Bikes and Men's , sadly Ladies bikes are often in less demand
- The more original and complete, and the higher the model line in the orginal catalog these makes vast difference
- Sum of the parts : complete bikes never sell for but a fraction of the sum of the parts ( this is we your very complete bike is very attractive to buyers versus one missing even just a few OG accessories)

Great resource is the archive of Cabe Classifieds classified sold


Finally , value opinions may be all over the map and some members might express strong feelings one way or the other.... keep an open mind and a thick skin .... just cause someone writes it here doesn't mean any particular price opinion is definitive, and conversely every opinion is a helpful perspective to inform your own view .


All that said ....... My opinion is that anyone looking for a complete post war ladies CWC would not find anything close to the condition you have for less than $650 plus shipping , if they limited the search time to one year AND anyone looking to sell era ladies CWC very complete in this condition or close would wait a long long long ( 2 years plus )time if they wanted to sell for anywhere above $1450 plus shipping

If you were ruthless, and insensitive the moral imperative to keep a nice bike together and wanted to part it out ....... I see no less than $1000 just selling the easiest to move parts and keeping the harder to move parts hung in the garage indefinitely. Lot trips to ups and a lot of emailing in that so really thats just for reference



Anyone see either of my range values off the mark ? anyone think a "low" of $650 is too optimistic ? anyone think a high of $1450 is too low ?


My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it ... But ....

Hopefully my stab gets the ball rolling.... brings some opinions from the guys here that know value.

no less than $650 + s / not more than $1450 + s
AmF postwar doesn't command CWC prices, so that effects value. The grips are not original, and we don't know if the rack light is all there, etc. I've bought a lot of CWC ladies bikes. Even a very rare Ridewell ladies 1947 in super awesome condition. Girls bikes don't command much unless they are prewar and super rare. Comparatively, for a complete and clean original paint CWC ladies bike, the average I have spent has been a range from $250 to $500.00, and those are all awesome bikes. The most I have ever paid for a prewar bike, a 1940 Elgin, all original and in almost showroom condition was $934.00 shipped, and $134.00 was for shipping. There are some rare bikes that will sell for $1400.00, but they are like 1940 Colsons, Schwinn ladies Motorbikes, stuff like that. AmF and earlier CWC ladies bikes are affordable and nice riding bikes. There are ladies bikes for sale here a lot, usually at $300 and under, shipped. Price depends also on what someone will pay for properly packing it and shipping it. The cost and hassle of that, makes selling it messier, and a local or in same state sale a lot more appealing. I've also seen some ladies bikes here start out at $595.00, and I end up buying them at $175.00 a year later, because no one else wanted it. It just depends on a lot of factors, but girls bikes usually go for maybe a 1/3 to possibly 1/2 as much as an identical mens bike, per se. And, most of you guys aren't looking to buy a ladies bike, unless your wife wants one. :) Or you're trying to get her excited about your hobby. Lol..... :)
I live an hour away from this bike, and I have 2 sets of the correct grips. If he sells it for a fair price, I am interested. If anyone else is interested, let me know, as I can sell you the grips. Nice bike!!!!!
Deb
 
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Superman1984

I live for the CABE
I agree with the AMF vs Actual CWC. I have a '50s some AMF & a CWC both womens, the nicest part on the AMF is the springer & star chain ring which is why I bought it. The CWC is just better built feeling. Has that heavy quality. Only difference is ballooner vs middle weight. Seems to me they tend to hold up well if kept inside mainly
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