Odd duck, Chinook from portland OR

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Rustngrease

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 2, 2019
152
37
Tokeland
Came across this yesterday, f.p. Keenan co. Chinook from portland OR , I was attracted to it being the from the place I was born. Thinking 20s never heard of it. Maybe someone in the cabe world might have a bit of info. Much appreciated.

Cheers

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gkeep

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 11, 2014
724
Alameda, CA
Very nice bike. Nice combination of original paint and patina. Cool rider!
The collar where the lower tube meets the seat tube is commonly found in bikes made by Westfield. The way the rear dropouts are finished where they enter the chain stays would also tell part of the story. That said, I only know what I know because the all the REAL experts around here. ;) I've been down this last February with an unbadged motobike frame I found. Turned out to be a Westfield built bike badged as Stormer. No idea who sold them or in what part of the country.

Serial number shoudl start with a letter if its a Westfield Columbia product. Maybe leftover WWI government contract frame repainted and badged for retail?

The frame looks similar to this Columbia Westfield Military Model from a thread in the Military Bike forum. Notice the collared lug(?) at the seat tube. Fork crown looks like a match too.
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Rustngrease

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 2, 2019
152
37
Tokeland
Very nice bike. Nice combination of original paint and patina. Cool rider!
The collar where the lower tube meets the seat tube is commonly found in bikes made by Westfield. The way the rear dropouts are finished where they enter the chain stays would also tell part of the story. That said, I only know what I know because the all the REAL experts around here. ;) I've been down this last February with an unbadged motobike frame I found. Turned out to be a Westfield built bike badged as Stormer. No idea who sold them or in what part of the country.

Serial number shoudl start with a letter if its a Westfield Columbia product. Maybe leftover WWI government contract frame repainted and badged for retail?

The frame looks similar to this Columbia Westfield Military Model from a thread in the Military Bike forum. Notice the collared lug(?) at the seat tube. Fork crown looks like a match too.
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Looks exactly like it, hey thank you for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it. It's exciting to gain info and knowledge from this community.

Cheers
 

Archie Sturmer

I live for the CABE
Jun 13, 2018
1,162
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Agree with the Westfield features; (sprocket, truss tube rear joint, seat post clamp).
Among other factors affecting price:
The bike is taller than more common 19" double bar drop frame (motor bike) models; is it a 22" or 24"(?).
The twin truss style frame is less common than the drop bar models also.
The old style handle bars with the first gentle curve are nice; (the manufacturer had more than 1 bending tool/radius).
Looks like the steering stem should be inserted more fully into the fork.
 
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Rustngrease

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 2, 2019
152
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Tokeland
Agree with the Westfield features; (sprocket, truss tube rear joint, seat post clamp).
Among other factors affecting price:
The bike is taller than more common 19" double bar drop frame (motor bike) models; is it a 22" or 24"(?).
The twin truss style frame is less common than the drop bar models also.
The old style handle bars with the first gentle curve are nice; (the manufacturer had more than 1 bending tool/radius).
Looks like the steering stem should be inserted more fully into the fork.
It's a 24 inch I appreciate your reply
 

piercer_99

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Dec 27, 2015
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Sanger, TX
I'll chirp in on Westfield built also.

Same chain wheel as my 1929 and 1930 Westfield's. Your bike is earlier though, get a shot of that serial number and we can tell you the year.

Very nice machine you have there, congratulations.

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Rustngrease

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 2, 2019
152
37
Tokeland
I'll chirp in on Westfield built also.

Same chain wheel as my 1929 and 1920 Westfield's. Your bike is earlier though, get a shot of that serial number and we can tell you the year.

Very nice machine you have there, congratulations.

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Numbers look like 44465 with a C above

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piercer_99

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Dec 27, 2015
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Sanger, TX
Numbers look like 44465 with a C above

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@MrColumbia would have better knowledge.

I am pretty sure that one of the C years was 1925, however your machine looks earlier than that, I think that 1912 was also a C, however, outside of MrColumbia (Ken), I don't know anyone for certain who could verify that. @Mercian may have an idea though. Heck, while I am at it, may as well see if Patric has an idea @hoofhearted

The grips, the pedals, the block chain and saddle seem more likely to be 1910's era and not 20's.

Good luck finding out which year, it is a really nice bicycle.
 
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Mercian

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jul 1, 2016
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Hi, @Rustngrease

I'm trying to sort out these very early serial numbers, but there are so few dateable examples, that I am still reluctant to give definate answers.

However, since 1918 bikes are J, this could be 1911 or 1912, depending on whether I was missed out of the sequence. I suspect they did so it's 1912.

C was also 1925, as @piercer_99 said, but I think he's right, the features are too early for 1925.

Addition:

F.P. Keenan were certainly in business in 1912. Here's one of their adverts from The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) July 31, 1910,

F. P. KEENAN CO.
ROYAL PIONEER MOTORCYCLES.
POPE BICYCLES.
Everything for Auto, Motorcycle & Bicycle.
lOO fourth Street.
HARTFORD


and from the Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) May 20, 1912

AUTOMOBILE SUPPLIES.
BICYCLES. MOTORCYCLES SUPPLIES.
F. P. KEENAN & CO., 100 Fourth st.


Maybe 190 Fourth St. Address in the Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) Nov. 4 1913


Note that they mention Pope, which becomes Westfield in 1916.

Best Regards,

Adrian
 
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Rustngrease

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 2, 2019
152
37
Tokeland
@MrColumbia would have better knowledge.

I am pretty sure that one of the C years was 1925, however your machine looks earlier than that, I think that 1912 was also a C, however, outside of MrColumbia (Ken), I don't know anyone for certain who could verify that. @Mercian may have an idea though. Heck, while I am at it, may as well see if Patric has an idea @hoofhearted

The grips, the pedals, the block chain and saddle seem more likely to be 1910's era and not 20's.

Good luck finding out which year, it is a really nice bicycle.
Wow thank you!!!
 

Rustngrease

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 2, 2019
152
37
Tokeland
Hi, @Rustngrease

I'm trying to sort out these very early serial numbers, but there are so few dateable examples, that I am still reluctant to give definate answers.

However, since 1918 bikes are J, this could be 1911 or 1912, depending on whether I was missed out of the sequence. I suspect they did so it's 1912.

C was also 1925, as @piercer_99 said, but I think he's right, the features are too early for 1925.

Addition:

F.P. Keenan were certainly in business in 1912. Here's one of their adverts from The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) July 31, 1910,

F. P. KEENAN CO.
ROYAL PIONEER MOTORCYCLES.
POPE BICYCLES.
Everything for Auto, Motorcycle & Bicycle.
lOO fourth Street.
HARTFORD


and from the Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) May 20, 1912

AUTOMOBILE SUPPLIES.
BICYCLES. MOTORCYCLES SUPPLIES.
F. P. KEENAN & CO., 100 Fourth st.


Maybe 190 Fourth St. Address in the Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) Nov. 4 1913


Note that they mention Pope, which becomes Westfield in 1916.

Best Regards,

Adrian
Wow I really appreciate the info , very exciting to learn the history
 
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