Ok, I gotta ask....

[fordmike65]

Why do so many refer to every early fixed gear diamond frame as a freakin' "track bike" or "racer"??? Despite no race characteristics, geometry or components??? Almost as bad as every old bike is a Schwinn. Ok, rant over. Mike

 

[GTs58]

I donno.

Why does everyone call their POS's a beach cruiser, even when they live in the desert and it's a skinny tired track bike?

Example.... Vintage Beach cruiser - $100 (Youngtown)

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/bik/6099529468.html

 

[Robertriley]

oh shut up Mike

 

[fordmike65]

oh shut up Mike

Why don't you go do a few practice laps at your local Velodrome on one of your many "race bikes"

 

[corbettclassics]

I agree with Mike. I know I only mention "Track" or "Racer" when I know for sure it's a factory racer as per the catalogue. I have seen
it mentioned many times where it's a regular old bike and it's called a track bike when it's just another roadster or .........

 

[corbettclassics]

Fordmike brings up an excellent point..!!
Here's a perfect example when you can call your "early" diamond frame a "RACER". Here's pics of my 1897 Cleveland Model #29.
Here's a page from the 1897 catalogue for the #29 and check out what they called it.

 

[Robertriley]

Fordmike brings up an excellent point..!!
Here's a perfect example when you can call your "early" diamond frame a "RACER". Here's pics of my 1897 Cleveland Model #29.
Here's a page from the 1897 catalogue for the #29 and check out what they called it.

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So...is that considered a racer or not? I just don't want to rub Mike the wrong way. It looks like your Cleveland is like a high end Trek Madone. It's not like the one that Lance Armstrong was racing but the Madones were used in some races. I saw a lot of them at the Tour of California and the Redlands Classic. So what's the verdict?

 

[Robertriley]

I have called this my TOC Racer before because of some of the parts and characteristic of the frame resembled something that could of been put together for a race bike years ago. Sorry if it offended you Mike.

http://thecabe.com/forum/media/albums/1897-toc-thor-hubs.1923/

 

[Robertriley]

I do agree with you Mike that there are a lot of bikes that people flip the bars over and them they are called TOC race bikes.

 

[barracuda]

If you turn any bike's handlebars upside-down, it goes faster. This has been known since the earliest days of cycling.