Once again, need help i.d.'ing a bike


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Rivnut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Nov 24, 2012
657
273
Shawnee, United States
#1
This bike is listed locally with very little info. Can anyone get me close OR tell me where to find a list of Elgin serial numbers? I've been trying to figure it out based on frame, chain ring, rack, chain guard, etc. but so far nothing, nada, zilch. Based on a previous thread on Elgin head badges, this should place this as a 1936 or later, but that's as far as I can get. Thanks in advance. Ed (I'm trying to reach the seller for a picture of the serial number but no response yet.)

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Archie Sturmer

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 13, 2018
536
434
Los Angeles, CA, USA
#2
Murray built; may actually need early Murray numbers.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/murray-serial-number-project.7014/
Straight down tube, may precede the curved. Straight seat tube, may precede the curved.
Fork looks different. Why doesn't the bike fall down without a drop-stand.
Sears 1938-39 elgin 2.jpg Sears 1938-39 elgin 1.jpg
Maybe check for Alemite fittings; note the standard shows a triangle cluster, versus a yoke on the tank model.
Maybe also check the CB hub for cooling fins/features.
 
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Rivnut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Nov 24, 2012
657
273
Shawnee, United States
#4
Thanks, I'll hopefully hear from the seller soon. Any idea where I can find a list of Elgin numbers?

Ed
 

Rivnut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Nov 24, 2012
657
273
Shawnee, United States
#5
I found this picture on a site called Dave's vintage bicycles. It's simply referred to as a 1938 tank model. No names of birds or anything else.

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The one I pictured in post #1 seems to be missing a few parts; fenders, seat, handlebars, and tank. What kind of price should it bring? What would the missing parts bring? Are they plentiful or rare?
 

fordmike65

Riding a '37 Colson Imperial
Mar 4, 2012
18,162
30,157
East Los
#6
Murray built; may actually need early Murray numbers.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/murray-serial-number-project.7014/
Straight down tube, may precede the curved. Straight seat tube, may precede the curved.
Fork looks different. Why doesn't the bike fall down without a drop-stand.
View attachment 946315 View attachment 946316
Maybe check for Alemite fittings; note the standard shows a triangle cluster, versus a yoke on the tank model.
Maybe also check the CB hub for cooling fins/features.
Looks like it has a sidestand.
 

Archie Sturmer

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 13, 2018
536
434
Los Angeles, CA, USA
#8
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Balloonoob

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 24, 2019
269
254
35
Longmont Colorado
#9
Wow so someone got a nice original paint fairly complete Elgin bike for 175? Sounds like great deals do actually happen sometimes on ebay?
 

Rivnut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Nov 24, 2012
657
273
Shawnee, United States
#10
Murray built; may actually need early Murray numbers.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/murray-serial-number-project.7014/
Straight down tube, may precede the curved. Straight seat tube, may precede the curved.
Fork looks different. Why doesn't the bike fall down without a drop-stand.
View attachment 946315 View attachment 946316
Maybe check for Alemite fittings; note the standard shows a triangle cluster, versus a yoke on the tank model.
Maybe also check the CB hub for cooling fins/features.
Can anyone post a picture of the full page of the left side this catalog. I'd like to read the entire description. I searched Google for Sear's Elgin ads and couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Ed
 

Archie Sturmer

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 13, 2018
536
434
Los Angeles, CA, USA
#12
MO Murray Ohio ads.
1937 mercury.jpg
1937 Murray "Mercury" version of the bike.
1937_Mercury_09-copy.jpg
Note the price drop, or price premium between 1937 Mercury and 1939 Elgin.
1938 Mercury 1.jpg
1938 ad may be harder too look at.
 
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