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Here's a leather B-7 Mesinger that belongs to a bud.
The rails pierce the spring bracket, flat seat post clamp, and the springs are 2-piece.

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Here's a leather Mesinger B-1 De Luxe that I've been wondering about. Feels like it's felt padded, rods screw into pan, and the chassis rails are the same as 1930's long-springs with the ends bent and riveted to the spring bracket, 1" clamp
This good orig is here along with a rough one, only two I've noticed.
Anyone have one on a bike?

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Ladies leather B-4 De Luxe:
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Cadmium plated side plates:
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Deep stamp:
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The leather isn't great on this one, but that lets us see the original construction of the upholstery:
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This one is sponge rubber padded. These often collapse with age and heat, sticking to the pan and sometimes melting.
Upper pans weren't painted:
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Enameled springs, not all B De Luxe saddles had chrome springs.
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Enameled "chassis", clamp assembly (there are different designs, this one is prewar), and under pan with original decal. From what I've seen the enamel had a good gloss:
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No paint or plating on upper pan:
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Rails riveted under spring bracket.
Many chassis have this "ghosting" and runs here and there. Painted quickly I suppose, no primer:
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Curved spring:
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Painted spring rods thread into upper pan:
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A Mesinger foam rubber pad B Deluxe ladies model. Not sure of the model number or what it was originally on. It's all original and hasn't been messed with. If you can tell me the model # and what it was original too, and a catalog page showing it, I would be deeply grateful.
Deb

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A Mesinger foam rubber pad B Deluxe ladies model. Not sure of the model number or what it was originally on. It's all original and hasn't been messed with. If you can tell me the model # and what it was original too, and a catalog page showing it, I would be deeply grateful.
Deb

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De Lux B-4, common to most manufacturers in the 1930s
nice saddle
 
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