Paint removal to see original paint

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Michael Boyd

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 27, 2017
169
65
Texas
Hi Guys
I’ve looked and searched here and can not find a thread that simply tells the procedure for removing paint to get to original paint (and not harming the original)
If anyone can point me to a thread or just tell me the process, I’m ready to start on my Shelby WF
THANKS
Mike

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Michael Boyd

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 27, 2017
169
65
Texas
The seller had buffed it to show the number , looks like it may be red paint underneath, but again, love to know how to remove the brown paint to get to the red and hopefully bring it back to life.

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Jeff54

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 11, 2013
2,447
Ft Myers, Florida
There's no one size fits all when it comes to removing newer over coat or, as called; house paint. Original paints are, in general harder than over coated house paint jobs yet, some are so hard, for age maybe, it can be really tough to break it down without breaking original paint at the same time. Moreover trial and error starting light and working up the scales unless, ya got a super great load of elbow grease and capable of gently sanding/skinng the house paint off without going too deep.

IDK what you are expecting too B/C it also looks like it got a decent sanding before rattle canned. Regardless, if it is primers on it, Maybe acetone, (nail polish remover) U could also try various thinners especially leaning on Tulane or lighter easier on the paint, paint removers. Goof-off might work on yours B/C it looks like a recent primer sprayed on but ya gotta be careful; to much or too long can begin loosening the original paint.
 

bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
23,632
Chicago area west
Not sure, but think oven cleaner is what folks use... paint stripper might damage the base paint.
 

cyclonecoaster.com

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
May 8, 2008
2,727
SoCal, United States
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There is not one perfect solution for every type of "house paint" used - many paints have different formulas just like the many different paint removers - I had great success with the GOOF OFF product on whatever was used as a house paint over this tank - I worked a small spot at a time & a large bath towel that I constantly moved so I always had a clean area on the towel with fresh GOOF OFF on it that as I used the new spot on the towel I would do a quick last wipe over the area just revealed

The GOOF OFF would soften the old house paint - then it would smear it & then the new area on the rag would make it 90% there - Let the product - in this case GOOF OFF - break down the old house paint - RUBBING IT HARDER WILL NOT MAKE THE GOOF OFF WORK ANY BETTER - Gentle motion - well ventilated area - or open area outside & PATIENCE .. this tank took me 5 hours to clean up - but 100% worth the patience - original paint under house paint isn't guaranteed depending on how how much was there and/or condition before it was painted & how the painter prepped the surface to begin with

Too much of any remover may remove it all .. so again work on small areas and with plenty of patience - I have found that white house paint is the most difficult to remove with any type of thinner

I've also used more & less aggressive thinners - from lacquer thinner - to paint thinner - to acetone & more - each house paint has a product that may work against it to reveal original paint which is surprisingly strong depending of brand of bike - Schwinn is really strong paint from the factory - many others not as strong - In the case of your Shelby - paint is on the thin side prewar .. so be careful & best of luck .. keep us posted on progress


Ridden not Hidden - Frank






 
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saladshooter

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Nov 30, 2014
2,446
Littleton, CO
Gotsta be one of the best clean up successes in the hobby!
There is not one perfect solution for every type of "house paint" used - many paints have different formulas just like the many different paint removers - I had great success with the GOOF OFF product on whatever was used as a house paint over this tank - I worked a small spot at a time & a large bath towel that I constantly moved so I always had a clean area on the towel with fresh GOOF OFF on it that as I used the new spot on the towel I would do a quick last wipe over the area just revealed

The GOOF OFF would soften the old house paint - then it would smear it & then the new area on the rag would make it 90% there - Let the product - in this case GOOF OFF - break down the old house paint - RUBBING IT HARDER WILL NOT MAKE THE GOOF OFF WORK ANY BETTER - Gentle motion - well ventilated area - or open area outside & PATIENCE .. this tank took me 5 hours to clean up - but 100% worth the patience - original paint under house paint isn't guaranteed depending on how how much was there and/or condition before it was painted & how the painter prepped the surface to begin with

Too much of any remover may remove it all .. so again work on small areas and with plenty of patience - I have found that white house paint is the most difficult to remove with any type of thinner

I've also used more & less aggressive thinners - from lacquer thinner - to paint thinner - to acetone & more - each house paint has a product that may work against it to reveal original paint which is surprisingly strong depending of brand of bike - Schwinn is really strong paint from the factory - many others not as strong - In the case of your Shelby - paint is on the thin side prewar .. so be careful & best of luck .. keep us posted on progress


Ridden not Hidden - Frank






 
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the tinker

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
May 4, 2014
2,950
Planet Mongo
Look up the post "five minutes with goof off" in the Restoration thread. In it I talk about using Easy-Off extra strength oven cleaner [lye] and Goof Off paint remover. You have to read the everything in the restoration thread BEFORE you start on your bike. It's ALL in there. Saves mistakes.
 
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gkeep

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 11, 2014
807
Alameda, CA
Like the Tinker says, read that other thread and you'll be well prepared to decide where to start. It looks like spray paint, if so the oven cleaner may be the way to go. I'v used goof off too and it worked on multiple layers of old rattle can paint. I probably don't need to say this but be patient and work a small area in an out of the way spot while you get a feel for what works. Best of luck and look forward to seeing results.
 

Tikibar

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 29, 2015
354
Evanston, United States
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