Phantom in hung up in a restaurant. Real?

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  1. #1 Posted Dec 18, 2017

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    So this phantom is hanging from a ceiling in an Oklahoma diner. Is it real?

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    Whole lotta phunky hangin there
     
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    Reissue!
     
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    I don't even think it is a re-issue. Probably an old cantilever frame that someone 'restored' to look like a Phantom. Wrong seat and wrong pedals for either an original or re-issue. V/r Shawn
     
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    I have a "reissue" phantom.
    The coaster brakes have the Schwinn stamping.
    The brake arm has "Schwinn Centennial ~ 1895 ~1995.


    A "real" phantom would most likely have rivets
    on the fenders.
    My reissue has nuts & bolts on the fenders.

    I have several originals,one reissue and one
    that was slapped together to look like a
    phantom.

    I like them all and each one serves a different
    purpose.
     
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    looks great for the intended use,not all of us are pure breds!!
     
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    The question by the OP was whether this bike is a real Phantom. The answer is-not likely based on the discrepancies noted.
     
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    Totally a correct original or repop? no.
     
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    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Yeah but it's a 1926 model... 01BA9851-E194-4069-8CF5-9DE45EB05B72.jpeg
     
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    I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!

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    let's hope that's an inventory tag....
     
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    I don't think so--the '26 model had a different stem!
     
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    That hex head bolt in the seat post clamp authenticates the real Phantom theory. Schwinn ran out of the AS bolts and just used what they had to keep the production line going. Although it's not depicted in the catalog pictures, it is correct. yesnod.gif ....................... rofl.gif
     
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  14. #14 Posted Dec 20, 2017

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    I think it is a real bike...not a fake bike.
    That was the question right? Or is this a trick question? o_O
     
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    It is a real bike but may not be a real Phantom. V/r Shawn
     
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    Multiple items depicting a home made bike besides what's been mentioned. .. that sticker on the chain guard is not a decal it's an sticker. The photo is good enough you can see the paper or vinyl. edges. so, expect it's fresh paint, not a 95 repop nor 50's. I didn't even know anybody made stickers but it is. . the seat post is not a replica but older cad plated, I'm betting 60's. The sprocket; Schwinn logo is repop version, sloppy and cheap. Soft metal is why the edges of lettering are raised. early Schwinn would have ground the high edges off, if needed but, hard steel would be cleaner so, no raised edges like this. . . . The crank is older but it could be from most any 50-70's year. The repop cranks, if had those Knicks and other wear in em like this one, the rust would grow fast! it's older plating . can't see the front but the rear fender is a wald. sure fire not Schwinn fender is because Schwinn's fender brackets, the flat is usually less than 3/8" exposed This is wald's or plain jane china.. If front fender has that type of flat exposure then, guarantied the fender light is the replica flat screw-on deal. That seat is not a repop phantom nor old. that bike is something scabbed together. I don't think that frame is a repop but next time you're there just look on bottom bracket, 1995 repops have the 100th anniversary embossed on bottom. if it's not there then nothing is real. Just a mix of parts, paint and repop and replica stuff. "Restoration" on any old Schwinn frame.

    Not that there's anything wrong wit dat but, it's not 'authentic', it's an 'decoration', nostalgic item. ' And there's no law again dat; decorations.
     
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    I believe Gonzoman wants to know if the bike hanging in the restaurant is an original phantom
    which came from Schwinn Chicago factory.

    Based on the replies I have read from the other members and the observations they have made,
    it appears to be a bike that was put together with whatever they had available.

    People not familiar with bicycles from the past, would think it is a "real" old bike.
    There are those that call them "Peewee Herman" bikes, regardless of the brand.
    They don't know any better or care.

    Those that know about Schwinns and other bicycles from the past, would be able to spot it right away for what it is.
     
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  18. #18 Posted Dec 21, 2017

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    I stopped in the other day. They brought me some fake bacon, not even sure it was meat. OJ that I think was Tang and a powered egg. It was all real stuff, just not what I am use too.
     
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    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Crank arm is off a 10 speed. It looks to me like some one took a 95 repop and stripped off the easily sellable parts and substituted junk.
     
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