Phantom in hung up in a restaurant. Real?


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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
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Evans, GA
#4
I don't even think it is a re-issue. Probably an old cantilever frame that someone 'restored' to look like a Phantom. Wrong seat and wrong pedals for either an original or re-issue. V/r Shawn
 

2jakes

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Sep 1, 2010
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Elysium Fields
#5
I have a "reissue" phantom.
The coaster brakes have the Schwinn stamping.
The brake arm has "Schwinn Centennial ~ 1895 ~1995.


A "real" phantom would most likely have rivets
on the fenders.
My reissue has nuts & bolts on the fenders.

I have several originals,one reissue and one
that was slapped together to look like a
phantom.

I like them all and each one serves a different
purpose.
 
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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
15,082
14,796
Evans, GA
#7
The question by the OP was whether this bike is a real Phantom. The answer is-not likely based on the discrepancies noted.
 
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GTs58

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Sep 2, 2012
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#13
That hex head bolt in the seat post clamp authenticates the real Phantom theory. Schwinn ran out of the AS bolts and just used what they had to keep the production line going. Although it's not depicted in the catalog pictures, it is correct.
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Jeff54

I live for the CABE
Sep 11, 2013
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Ft Myers, Florida
#16
Multiple items depicting a home made bike besides what's been mentioned. .. that sticker on the chain guard is not a decal it's an sticker. The photo is good enough you can see the paper or vinyl. edges. so, expect it's fresh paint, not a 95 repop nor 50's. I didn't even know anybody made stickers but it is. . the seat post is not a replica but older cad plated, I'm betting 60's. The sprocket; Schwinn logo is repop version, sloppy and cheap. Soft metal is why the edges of lettering are raised. early Schwinn would have ground the high edges off, if needed but, hard steel would be cleaner so, no raised edges like this. . . . The crank is older but it could be from most any 50-70's year. The repop cranks, if had those Knicks and other wear in em like this one, the rust would grow fast! it's older plating . can't see the front but the rear fender is a wald. sure fire not Schwinn fender is because Schwinn's fender brackets, the flat is usually less than 3/8" exposed This is wald's or plain jane china.. If front fender has that type of flat exposure then, guarantied the fender light is the replica flat screw-on deal. That seat is not a repop phantom nor old. that bike is something scabbed together. I don't think that frame is a repop but next time you're there just look on bottom bracket, 1995 repops have the 100th anniversary embossed on bottom. if it's not there then nothing is real. Just a mix of parts, paint and repop and replica stuff. "Restoration" on any old Schwinn frame.

Not that there's anything wrong wit dat but, it's not 'authentic', it's an 'decoration', nostalgic item. ' And there's no law again dat; decorations.
 
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2jakes

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Sep 1, 2010
6,507
4,415
Elysium Fields
#17
I think it is a real bike...not a fake bike.
That was the question right? Or is this a trick question? o_O

I believe Gonzoman wants to know if the bike hanging in the restaurant is an original phantom
which came from Schwinn Chicago factory.

Based on the replies I have read from the other members and the observations they have made,
it appears to be a bike that was put together with whatever they had available.

People not familiar with bicycles from the past, would think it is a "real" old bike.
There are those that call them "Peewee Herman" bikes, regardless of the brand.
They don't know any better or care.

Those that know about Schwinns and other bicycles from the past, would be able to spot it right away for what it is.
 
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