Pierce Bicycle Mega Thread + Serial Numbers

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I don't see see were the catalog page was dated on post 37...


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[Freqman1]

Hard to see but in the text. V/r Shawn

 

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Speaking of which, anybody have any Pierce catalogs available from 1914-1918?


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Good eye Shawn. I stand corrected.

 

[corbettclassics]

Here's a another scan of it >

I believe the P.K.S. that you are talking about came after 1915. They mentioned that he was a champion
for 16 yrs and then they are coming out with the model described. They tested it in 1915 at the 6 Day Race and
will most likely bring it out for 1916.

Kramer turned pro in 1900 - he was the first to sign as a pro in Jan 1900 before anyone else. So, if they
are talking 16 yrs then it would be for 1916 that they first introduced the P.K.S. model in their line up.
This is only a wild guess but the catalogues from 1916 and up will tell more when it was first introduced.

* Although this next part has nothing to do with P.K.S. bikes, it is an interesting piece pertaining to the man we are talking about >

He was still an amateur in 1899 and I have great original piece from the Madison Square Gardens 6 Day Race
where it is most likely his last race as an amateur. He was handed this envelope after the race with his earnings.
I have some other interesting Kramer pieces in my collection but nothing pertaining to P.K.S. bikes. He raced
a "Special Racer" in his day and this is why I sold my P.K.S. model and am focusing more on the earlier bikes.
I've got 2 coming ( hopefully soon as they are buried in storage ) - one full nickel 1899 and the other black 1902(?).
Here's the envelope - RARE!!!!

 

[Freqman1]

So I would assume this is a scan from a '16 catalog then? Even at that I believe this was still a Buffalo built bike. Didn't the earlier race bikes have a separate tab on the head tube that said "Racer"? My '02 full cushion bike (not a racer) is a "Special" which indicated higher level equipment from what I gather from the literature. As most of you that are interested in Pierce are probably aware the full nickel frame was an option for $10--at least that is what is shown in the '02 cat. I'd be interested to see a Buffalo built FKS. V/r Shawn

 

[filmonger]

I know you guys have seen these before just thought I would post them.

Aww but you can't take them with you

 

[filmonger]

Frank Kramer pics....

He was born on September 15, 1880 in Evansville, Indiana.

He won the national championship in 1901 and raced in competitions in Europe in 1905 and 1906.[

He won the UCI Track Cycling World Championships – Men's sprint at the Newark Velodrome in Newark, New Jersey in 1912. Alfred Grenda of Australia, won the silver medal and André Perchicot won the bronze medal.

Kramer participated in bicycle racing for 27 years until his retirement on July 25, 1922 at the age of 42, after regarding "...racing as too strenuous for one of his age and expressed the belief that to continue would impair his health in later years". Twenty-three of those years he raced as a professional. Most of his racing was done in the United States of America but he also competed in races in France, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, and Denmark.

He died on October 8, 1958 in South Orange, New Jersey.

 

[filmonger]

Here is what we have so far......

Pierce serial numbers


XXXX Special Man's - No Serial No's ( need to check rear dropout ) Not on BB, Not Lugged, Chained, Nickel fork - ( Cabe owner ) The cabe...Pictured below ( 1890's? )
55972 Special Man's c1898 - Collected by Dave Toppin
57365 Special Model 344 Chain driven cushion ( Flat Spring by Crank ) - Shawn - believed to be 1901/2….the cabe
60292 Racer Man’s - Collected by Dave Toppin
61758 ( stamped on Seat tube ) Tom ( Tommydale1950) The cabe
63456 ( stamped on Seat tube ) Special Racer - riveted below badge( corbettclassics ) The Cabe
76088 Men’s Chainless - ( Jeff Powell ) Cushion frame, spring forks (no shackles), New Departure/P&F Corbin coaster brake, Christy saddleBadge: The Geo. N. Pierce Co., Buffalo
77092 Special Racer - Nickel Plated
85410 Men's Chainless - Hygienic Cushion frame - No springer fork ( Mikeymike ) the Cabe
86133 Cushion Chain Driven - Thought to be 1901 ( Richard Smith )
87605 Cushion Shaft Drive ( Richard Smith )
96665 Ladies Chainless ( Jeff Powell ) Cushion frame, Spring forks w/shackles, Pierce New Departure coaster brake, Christy saddle
Badge: The Geo. N. Pierce Co., Buffalo
106877 Cushion Shaft Drive ( Richard Smith )
106877 Chainless Men’s - collected by David Toppin - Again not sure if he is referring to Richards bike
135320 Cushion Chain driven model - believed to be a 1903/4? ( Will Cress ) Stamped on Seat tube
135320 Chainless - collected by David Toppin…Not sure if he is referring to Will’s or if this is another Model?
145187 ( Stamped on Seat tube ) Cushion Chain driven model, Shakled nickel spring fork- ( Cabe Owner ) Thought to be 1910
152026 Chain Driven - LuxLow Stamped on Dropout
165302 Man's c1900 ….collected by David Toppin
165509 - Model 110 Special Racer ( Carey Williams ) stamped on dropout
165509 Special Racer Man’s ..Collected by David Toppin - not sure if he is referring to Carey’s bike
166682 Model 121. Pierce Cycle Co, Buffalo badge. ( dfa252 ) stamped on dropout

170381 Racer Badge is Pierce Cycle Co., Buffalo ( Jeff Powell )
180173 Chain driven , Pace bike with Lap bell - type 4 Buffalo badge ( Gary - Gkeep ) The cabe
185513 ( stamped on drop out ) Tom ( Tommydale1950) The cabe
255073 ( Stamped on BB ) Frank Kramer Special (PKS) Professional Track Racer, Lugged / BSA Chainring, Angola Badged ( Cabe Owner ) The Cabe
256237 Pierce SBBR ( Carlitos ) considered to be a 1922 model
263054 Frank Kramer Special (PKS) Professional Track Racer Model Lugged ( Kccomet ) The Cabe
303434 Frank Kramer Special (PKS ) Lugged / BSA Chainring, Chrome (Nickel?) plated frame ( Dweber ) The Cabe
320717 Frank Kramer Special (PKS) Nickel Frame, Lugged Head ( Cabe Owner ) The Cabe

 

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Here's a late 1890's Pierce that I have at work. I could not find any serial numbers. Sorry for the lousy pictures, but it's 15' up in the air. Notice the sub badge below the badge is actually a decal.