Please help ID these two moto bikes .

[tanksalot]

Can anyone please help me ID this blue moto bike ? Also please help ID the rusty frame and crank . Thank you for any help.

 

[mike j]

You couldn't have picked some easier ones, Tom? I'll guess the blue one could be a Davis frame, Everything about the rusty one says Westfield except the rear dropouts. The bunny, Sylvilagos floridanus.

 

[Goldenindian]

What's the bottom bracket for the blueish one?? The rear dropouts on the rusty one are early Pope/Westfield. You had it right Mike.

 

[Goldenindian]

The blue ones fork "if" davis would have the trussrods that go up to one not two at the top. The frame looks real correct, Dayton type adjusters. What's that bottom bracket?

 

[bikeyard]

View attachment 642727 View attachment 642728 View attachment 642730 View attachment 642731 View attachment 642732 View attachment 642733 View attachment 642734 Can anyone please help me i.d. this blue moto bike ? Also please help i.d. the rusty frame and crank . Thank you for any help.

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The sprocket on the rusty one looks like a Hawthorne.

 

[tripple3]

I think this one is Shelby built

 

[Cowboy in NC]

I think this one is Shelby built
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I think and I could be wrong, that the blue one was made by Emblem / Pierce by the way frame tubes are joined to one another. I think the sprocket is also Emblem.
They had a slightly different set of strut rods on some of their Motorbikes- but `m not sure that all had those. I concur on the second Bike- Westfield Made.
Cowboy

 

[Goldenindian]

The chainring on the blue is emblem.
Looks like a nice solid machine.

 

[tanksalot]

Thank you for all the help . The rusty frame is pretty much toast or needs a lot of work it's bent towards the rear stays / pushed in . But the the crank is still good . The blue bike Im on the fence on what to do with this one . I can see black paint under the blue paint . But some one removed the blue paint in places and even through the black paint .