Please help me identify this teens/20s saddle

[lgrinnings]

Howdy folks-

Here's a teens/20s saddle that I’d love to identify. Looks like an early precursor to the Messinger Tornado, so maybe Messinger? Looks very similar to the Scout saddle in this post...

Toc Teens Tornado Spring Saddle | Sell - Trade: Bicycle Parts, Accessories, Ephemera

Good rideable condition. Stiff padding. Soft leather. Toc style chassis. Reads "Scout". Saddle pan dimensions approx. 9"L x 7"W $270 free shipping Cont US

thecabe.com

Again, any and all help is sincerely appreciated.

-Lester

 

[fordmike65]

Kinda tough to see in this pic, but I have a teens wireframe saddle with similar springs on my Adlake

 

[lgrinnings]

Kinda tough to see in this pic, but I have a teens wireframe saddle with similar springs on my Adlake
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Thanks Mike. The one above came off a Great Western Crown, so that makes sense. I’m wondering if the chassis has been swapped out because of a break in the original wire chassis.

 

[mike j]

Although it's on my Great Western Crown now, I picked this up by it's crusty lonesome, at Copake, a few years ago. No clue as to what it came off of. Where your chassis is bolted to the bottom of the front spring looks a little miss matched IMHO.

 

[catfish]

It's an Superior Saddle. That is the company name. I think I have the catalog posted in my photo albums here on the Cabe.

 

[ccmerz]

restored example I have

 

[lgrinnings]

Where your chassis is bolted to the bottom of the front spring looks a little miss matched IMHO.

I thought the same thing at first, but the more I look at it, the more I think it’s maybe not modified. The spring is made to adjust forward and back on both the pan and the chassis. It’s in the back position now which makes it look a little funky.