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bike

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 26, 2007
6,755
Bicycleland
Okay Iver buddies,, here's what a 1928 Iver Johnson order form looks like when the dealer placed an order for your new bicycle. To the best of my knowledge, no other bicycle manufacturer allowed this much customizing...correct me if I'm not right.
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First one.
I have seen colson and schwinn- this could be a good resource!
 

partsguy

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Aug 13, 2008
10,938
Planet Vulcan
At one time, you could order your bike from the dealer like you did your car, "ala cart".

I've seen some Huffmans with variations that were not in the catalogs. OEM tail lights on bikes that didn't come with them standard or springer racks, some came with fender ornaments and some did not, I have a bike in a color that nobody else has and nobody can explain it. I know of one other like mine but it is totally destroyed.

I suspect my bike was either a special order or an attempt by Huffy to use up old black paint, an uncommon color on 60's American bikes. It's a '63 model without a tank, with decal headbadges, indicating that it was built in the Azusa, California plant, or so I was told. Perhaps it was left over Penguin paint? Who knows.

I've also heard rumor that my bike could be one of a very limited run of early or late model year bikes, similar to what was done with cars to stimulate sales. I'm unaware of any car, bike, truck, or motorcycle company building special vehicles for such a thing, except for Chrysler in the 50's. Examples of that would be the Silver Challenger or La Femme.

I wish more documentation existed for our bikes...
 
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partsguy

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Aug 13, 2008
10,938
Planet Vulcan
Where do you guys find all these old build sheets?!

I mean, it's not like restoring a car where the build sheet is hidden in the car seat, door, 1/4 panel, or behind the dash. It's hard to hide a build sheet inside a bike, much less for it to be retrievable or even legible.

These bikes weren't classic nor collectible 50 years ago, so the build sheets probably got tossed with the manuals and receipts. HOW do you guys find them? Where are they?
 

bike

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 26, 2007
6,755
Bicycleland
find them in the steer tube and seat tube are the 2 I know of

Where do you guys find all these old build sheets?!

I mean, it's not like restoring a car where the build sheet is hidden in the car seat, door, 1/4 panel, or behind the dash. It's hard to hide a build sheet inside a bike, much less for it to be retrievable or even legible.

These bikes weren't classic nor collectible 50 years ago, so the build sheets probably got tossed with the manuals and receipts. HOW do you guys find them? Where are they?
steer tube and seat tube are the 2 I know of
 
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Obi-Wan Schwinnobi

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 5, 2013
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San Diego
Where do you guys find all these old build sheets?!

I mean, it's not like restoring a car where the build sheet is hidden in the car seat, door, 1/4 panel, or behind the dash. It's hard to hide a build sheet inside a bike, much less for it to be retrievable or even legible.

These bikes weren't classic nor collectible 50 years ago, so the build sheets probably got tossed with the manuals and receipts. HOW do you guys find them? Where are they?
Mine was rolled up inside the seat tube on a 39 liberty c mod. I heard it sliding back and forth... unfortunately I couldn't get it past a certain spot in the frame so I had to practicality destroy it getting it out.
 
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Autocycleplane

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jan 6, 2010
2,211
NorCal, United States
I stumbled across a couple of threads about Obi finding that build sheet in his old blue '39 C-Model, which a local Caber now owns and I have seen before and forgotten about. So I decided to take a look in my bikes just to see. And guess what, the first bike (38) I looked in had one:
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But unfortunately it was only the bottom half and pretty shredded. I could make out the SB30x12 bars and some other options but pretty beat:

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Still pretty cool. So I pulled the post on my 37 Roadster I have had forever and low and behold:

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Another roached up build sheet, but still some cool stuff on there. My last prewar Schwinn came up snake eyes, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad. That got me thinking - I wonder how many I've never found because I didn't know where to look? How many other build sheets are out there in collections that are waiting to share their secrets?

On to the next post for more...
 

Autocycleplane

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jan 6, 2010
2,211
NorCal, United States
So yesterday I rolled up to onecatahula's place to check out his ML scores. I brought my flashlight and told him about my build sheets. You can guess what happened next - we were running around with a 9/16" ripping saddles off and peering down every seat tube he had.

Yup, found 2 more. One in a housepainted frame he found at ML so don't think it has to be an original unmolested bike. Check it:

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Notice the paint color sample on both of them. Obi wisely suggested the factory likely left them sticking half way out during paint, and stuffed them down in the seat tube during final assembly.

So prewar Schwinn owners - please take a look down the seat tubes of your bikes. You may have something hiding in there and it would be fun to post them all up on this thread to share with everyone. I had a blast finding mine and helping Pete with his discoveries.
 

GTs58

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Sep 2, 2012
12,348
Central Arizona
Amazing those build sheets lasted as well as they did! And I have to wonder when they stopped that practice.
 

bikemonkey

I live for the CABE
Jun 25, 2016
1,371
67
North Carolina , Albemarle, NC, United States
Where do you guys find all these old build sheets?!

I mean, it's not like restoring a car where the build sheet is hidden in the car seat, door, 1/4 panel, or behind the dash. It's hard to hide a build sheet inside a bike, much less for it to be retrievable or even legible.

These bikes weren't classic nor collectible 50 years ago, so the build sheets probably got tossed with the manuals and receipts. HOW do you guys find them? Where are they?
kudos to you for asking THE question....
 

bike

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 26, 2007
6,755
Bicycleland
Order forms are cool to see what options there were and are usually found outside of the bike
Build sheets usually found in the seat tube or fork.
 
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