Pope....Ideal and Standard Bicycles Bought in a Bundle of Bikes today....

[bike]

the rake and gearing etc

Unknown...?????????

suggest a "Trick" bicycle

 

[Gary Mc]

Thanks rustyspoke66. The lugging on the first bike is incredible. The only marking on the entire bike is Pope Manufacturing. I sure wish it had the headbadge.....

I think it's probably just a little later, G&J sold their bicycles to American Bicycle Company in 1900 with Pope ending up in control in 1904 so if you see Pope on it, it is probably a circa 1904 Rambler (formerly G&J bike). Here's a 1900 Rambler with that chainring as well. That rear ND Duplex Corbin hub is also circa 1905ish I believe.

 

[s1b]

Wow, amazing find. Look forward to hearing more about these!

 

[miller32]

I think it's probably just a little later, G&J sold their bicycles to American Bicycle Company in 1900 with Pope ending up in control in 1904 so if you see Pope on it, it is probably a circa 1904 Rambler (formerly G&J bike). Here's a 1900 Rambler with that chainring as well. That rear ND Duplex Corbin hub is also circa 1905ish I believe.

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Thanks for the info Gary....much appreciated! I suppose finding a badge for this thing is going to be tough!!!

 

[Larmo63]

Gary Mc is right. That timetable seems to all fit quite well. These are

all incredibly interesting machines. The gold and black one looks to be

a circus, stage/trick, or Vaudeville bike.

 

[rustyspoke66]

I think it's probably just a little later, G&J sold their bicycles to American Bicycle Company in 1900 with Pope ending up in control in 1904 so if you see Pope on it, it is probably a circa 1904 Rambler (formerly G&J bike). Here's a 1900 Rambler with that chainring as well. That rear ND Duplex Corbin hub is also circa 1905ish I believe.

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That makes perfect sense.

 

[pelletman]

Pope Manufacturing....???

No Gormully & Jeffrey about 1899 -1900 I think

 

[pelletman]

Unknown Bicycle...no tag...

Trick bike, probably custom built

 

[pelletman]

If it says Pope it is G & J made by American Bicycle Company after the big Pope Merger I think. They created a big bicycle trust and most of the majors were part of it I think, It fell apart rather quickly..

 

[miller32]

I stayed up late trying to find information about these bikes. One thing I came across was this....
http://copakeauction.auctionflex.co...782&archive=y&lso=pricedesc&pagenum=1&lang=En

The second bikes has many of the same features. Only tagged with Ideal.