Pre '33 AS&CO Serial Number Project

[RustyHornet]

Posting these randoms here for the project.

First I ran across this at a local swap meet. Unfortunately I screwed up and forgot to get the serial number…. But it’s been mentioned before about the transition from 28” to balloon and fender spacers. I had never seen any before myself. The owner was calling this one a B10E.

For the sake of comparison and discussion, a pic of the fender bridge on my ‘33

This is a ‘39, the same as my ‘33

Then my ‘24.

And this one was posted on a Facebook group.

I can make out a 49750X, owner is working on getting the last digit.

 

[SKPC]

Josh. Found this example buried in a Davis thread...no mention of the Westfield crank date...ciao!

 

[Vdubber]

Posting these randoms here for the project.

First I ran across this at a local swap meet. Unfortunately I screwed up and forgot to get the serial number…. But it’s been mentioned before about the transition from 28” to balloon and fender spacers. I had never seen any before myself. The owner was calling this one a B10E.

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For the sake of comparison and discussion, a pic of the fender bridge on my ‘33

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This is a ‘39, the same as my ‘33

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Then my ‘24.

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And this one was posted on a Facebook group.

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I can make out a 49750X, owner is working on getting the last digit.


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Here’s the rest of the serial #

 

[mickeyc]

The crank looked peculiarly Emblem Angola NY way back then.

My New Cadillac....what Year? | General Discussion About Old Bicycles

Just picked this up today, no time to check serial number yet....

thecabe.com

Emblem bicycles did have a six-digits serial number format.

I did purchase the bike in N.Y. (Rochester area)

 

[SKPC]

Yes, AS is correct regarding the womens Emblem-made Caddillac. Emblem identifiers are~~ fish mouth joinery, 2" offset crankset, cap style headset (upper) and ribbed fenders....Emblem and Emblem built Pierce cycles had these fenders into the early 30's. Emblem fonts below.
The womens Emblem. https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/my-new-cadillac-what-year.94970/

Another Emblem serial number below.

 

[Archie Sturmer]

Serial number 128,696 and repaired AS-16 crank on an orange refurbished Mead Ranger motorbike that was recently for sale. https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/mead-ranger-teen-motorbike-28-frame-rat-rod.209162/
Perhaps the wrong sprocket was a swapped item, (to match the skip tooth 26” wheel set)?

 

[RustyHornet]

Serial number 128,696 and repaired AS-16 crank on an orange refurbished Mead Ranger that was recently for sale. https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/mead-ranger-teen-motorbike-28-frame-rat-rod.209162/
Perhaps the wrong sprocket was a swapped item to match the skip tooth 26” wheel set?

I wondered who got that one. I was very interested.

 

[Archie Sturmer]

A tribute bike to Harley Davidson looks like an A&S frame, SN 142,027.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255613012361?campid=5335809022

 

[Jim sciano]

Hey guys, I just picked up this guy and I’m hoping it could be a schwinn. The serial is 422210. I haven’t pulled the crank yet but I think I will this evening because I’m dying to know. This would fall into the 1928 bracket if you think it’s a schwinn. It has a model c nd which to my understanding ran from 27-33. I really want to make this a rider eventually. Any wheel and tire suggestions? Please let me know your thoughts about anything with this bike. Chicago HSB badge. Let me know if more pics would help. Thanks in advance

 

[dasberger]

Hey guys, I just picked up this guy and I’m hoping it could be a schwinn. The serial is 422210. I haven’t pulled the crank yet but I think I will this evening because I’m dying to know. This would fall into the 1928 bracket if you think it’s a schwinn. It has a model c nd which to my understanding ran from 27-33. I really want to make this a rider eventually. Any wheel and tire suggestions? Please let me know your thoughts about anything with this bike. Chicago HSB badge. Let me know if more pics would help. Thanks in advance View attachment 1696768
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Looks like you're on the money... '28 Schwinn. Interested in crank date!

Plenty of discussion about 28" wheels/tires. The long and the short of it is if you want to use the OG wheels Robert Dean single tubes. Other options for clinchers include Velocity blunt 29" which in this case you could get in silver and would look close to OG or any other 700c wheel set or European 28" you can dig up on the interwebs. In general all options are fairly pricey unless you find a cheap 700c with a profile you like.

Nice bike good luck with the project!