Racer?

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  1. #1 Posted Dec 24, 2017

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    What's a fair price on this? I'm thinking it might be a track bike? But not really versed in this age of bike. I just noticed the toe clips on the pedals.

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    Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe

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    Hard to say track bike toe clips can be added. Looks like a small bike..I might be interested in it you need better pics though. I see bikes priced all over the place.. it’s really hard to say a value...to you really get a good picture of it.. let me know if you sell..
     
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    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    All I can say is wow. I want it.
     
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    Based on that pic it is really hard to tell. That frame tubing looks a little thick to be a racer though. Get us some good pics in the light. Head badge? V/r Shawn
     
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    Roman head badge.

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    And I don't have the bike.... don't want to post too much either, chumming the water...
     
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    Think this is the same manufacturer.

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    frame geometry doesn't say "racer" to me
    but like the others, I like it
     
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    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Nice,,,,IT is What YOU Want It to Be!!!!!;)
    Seems All Original Except for the Handlebars (Rambler), and I Need Them!!!:D
    Good Luck!
     
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    Whoa...nice find! I own the Roman in the thread posted by Fordsnake.

    This is the only other one I’ve seen.

    Let me know if you end up with it. I’d love to compare notes.
     
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    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    SWEET BIKE GET IT KEEP IT HAPPINES
     
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    Didnt get it....sold to someone else

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    Bummer you didn't get it, looks like a nice bike.

    Question Y'all... What exactly is a "Racer" in the TOC era? So many references to the racer bike, no consistency in the bicycles touted as racer, so what gives?

    I think racer refers to the rider not the bike.
     
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    Racers were always lighter by a few pounds.
     
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    Probably to someone else on this site.
     
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    Is that a matter of the frame and fork construction? Or is it how it's accessorized lighter wheels bars etcetera?

    I see many images of Club racing or street racing most of the bikes look ordinary like any other production bike for the public
     
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    From my Tribune (1894-1902) research, the Racing Models typically weighed 18-19 pounds where the more durable road models were 20-24 pounds. They were lighter because frame tubing and connections were thinner and they used lighter racing rims and tires. Racing tires were listed at 1-3/8" instead of typical road tires at 1-1/2" or 1-5/8". Also the frame geometry was slightly different. Tribune racing frames had 3" drop from line of axles to center of crank. Road models had 1-1/2" +/- drop. Specifications varied slightly over the various years of production but the pattern of racers being lighter than road versions was consistent. Overall though, the road and race versions look pretty much similar to each other. Racing handle bars, seats, and pedals can make most any TOC frame look like a racer.

    Here is an 1897 Tribune Special Racer and a Special Racer Tandem (both nameplates say "Special"):
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