Schwinn King Sting and Sidewinder!???

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Cruiserdude94

Look Ma, No Hands!
This is a 1982 model (first year of 3 that it was available) made in December of 1980, in Chicago. It wasn’t sold until March 1983, at the Victorville Schwinn Cyclery in Victorville California. It has the original owner’s manual with their stamp and the matching serial number. It has a 6 digit California Bicycle License Sticker on the Seat Tube. This is the 5 speed model. It has dust & grime from storage over the years, and minor wear from use, but appears to be all original, except possibly the Brooks saddle. It’s been stored for many years so the shifter cable isn’t moving in the rear housing. The tires are inflated and holding air fine with no dryrot. The front wheel spins straight. The rear has a very slight warp in one small section, possibly from being dropped onto something while the tire was flat, but that should bend back and true easily since it spins straight otherwise. I was able to ride it around the driveway. It’s noted on the owner’s manual as being sold as White by the original dealer. There are some spots of wear/chipping with finish loss, that have a brown layer of paint underneath, but it looks like primer rather than a repaint. The headbadge, nor fork dropouts are date stamped. The down tube and forks have unique decals. I wish i knew more of the story behind this ride, but it is an estate find so what you see is what you get. Also, the rear brake caliper was replaced with a Weinmann 1024 at some point from the og Dia Compe. Local cash pickup preferred but I do accept Paypal & Venmo, and am willing to coordinate door-to-door delivery locally or through uShip anywhere in the US or your own carrier. I can also partially disassemble/box/ship it for $50 + actual cost (message me with zip for quote). These don’t come up often, especially the first ones, and with provenance so don’t hesitate to reach out to me with interest or any questions.

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Sharing this from a listing to provide more documentation on white sidewinders
 

RustyHornet

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Man that is such a cool find! I love all of these white Sidewinders coming out of the woodwork!
 

rustjunkie

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Moderator
I know from experience that at a busy and/or disorganized bike shop the manual that came in the box often did not stay with that bike.
it was a bike, not a collectors item, and just a manual that most people never asked for or read.
grab one from the drawer and fill it in when the bike is headed out the door.
 

RustyHornet

Wore out three sets of tires already!
I have a batch of super rare first edition Sidewinder manuals if anyone is interested?

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I love it that you can’t admit when you were wrong and keep digging yourself deeper…. It’s so fun to watch children, just never know what they are gonna do next!

Lobsterboy is special. Very special. I hope I can be as smart as him when I grow up. 🥰🥰😘😍

I suppose it’s too late to point out the copyright date on the manual that was issued with this extremely rare never produced white sidewinder and then the date on the copy that you provided.

I am still enjoying the spectacle that is you. You are gaining quite the reputation here and elsewhere for your shenanigans on this topic and losing all credibility. Fun to watch what’s going on behind the scenes that you aren’t aware of. 🦞👶

So curious as to who purchased this one! Hope they pop in and join the conversation! Was a sweet deal for the price! Especially given they never made white ones and the manual is a forgery!!!!!
 

RustyHornet

Wore out three sets of tires already!
I know from experience that at a busy and/or disorganized bike shop the manual that came in the box often did not stay with that bike.
it was a bike, not a collectors item, and just a manual that most people never asked for or read.
grab one from the drawer and fill it in when the bike is headed out the door.
Lest we forget that this bike was never supposed to exist. It wasn’t in the catalog. So why would they produce a special manual for it during this trial run? Wouldn’t make sense.
 

Xlobsterman

I live for the CABE
Lest we forget that this bike was never supposed to exist. It wasn’t in the catalog. So why would they produce a special manual for it during this trial run? Wouldn’t make sense.

What makes sense to most people that are capable of rational thinking are "FACTS"....................and the fact is that Schwinn did produce an owners manual for the King Sting and Sidwinders dated 1981 as is the one from my King Sting in the attached pic!

The manual in the for sale listing for that Sidewinder is clearly not the manual for the bike, or what would have come with it from a good organized reputable dealer! Schwinn manuals are a dime a dozen on Ebay, and can be filled out at anytime, by anyone with a pen! So it means nothing as provenance to the authenticity of the bike in question!

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GTs58

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
FACT!
A printed manual with a copyright date does not indicate when that manual was printed or distributed..............!! That manual could have been printed months or years after that copyright date. Some people get all high and mighty thinking they can disprove a fact that's sitting right in front of their face. Prove when that manual was actually printed and distributed...........!! Prove that manual wasn't issued to the owner of the Sidewinder!


Here's a 1960 Schwinn catalog printing of two models that Schwinn never produced! It's a fake news situation! But it's documented!

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Xlobsterman

I live for the CABE
This is a 1982 model (first year of 3 that it was available) made in December of 1980, in Chicago. It wasn’t sold until March 1983, at the Victorville Schwinn Cyclery in Victorville California. It has the original owner’s manual with their stamp and the matching serial number. It has a 6 digit California Bicycle License Sticker on the Seat Tube. This is the 5 speed model. It has dust & grime from storage over the years, and minor wear from use, but appears to be all original, except possibly the Brooks saddle. It’s been stored for many years so the shifter cable isn’t moving in the rear housing. The tires are inflated and holding air fine with no dryrot. The front wheel spins straight. The rear has a very slight warp in one small section, possibly from being dropped onto something while the tire was flat, but that should bend back and true easily since it spins straight otherwise. I was able to ride it around the driveway. It’s noted on the owner’s manual as being sold as White by the original dealer. There are some spots of wear/chipping with finish loss, that have a brown layer of paint underneath, but it looks like primer rather than a repaint. The headbadge, nor fork dropouts are date stamped. The down tube and forks have unique decals. I wish i knew more of the story behind this ride, but it is an estate find so what you see is what you get. Also, the rear brake caliper was replaced with a Weinmann 1024 at some point from the og Dia Compe. Local cash pickup preferred but I do accept Paypal & Venmo, and am willing to coordinate door-to-door delivery locally or through uShip anywhere in the US or your own carrier. I can also partially disassemble/box/ship it for $50 + actual cost (message me with zip for quote). These don’t come up often, especially the first ones, and with provenance so don’t hesitate to reach out to me with interest or any questions.

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Sharing this from a listing to provide more documentation on white sidewinders

So once again we have another White Sidewinder. Now the question is: is this a factory built bike? IMO, it is not, since all factory built bikes including the Sidewinders had the head badge date stamped. And the Sidewinders front fork dropout was also date stamped. This bike in the pics has neither!

So the mystery still continues as to how this bike was built? Was this a frame up build from a dealer? I guess we can just speculate once again as to when, and how this bike has come to exist until someone actually finds some documentation from Schwinn that clearly states the bikes were available in White.

I guess we can all believe what we want as it relates to these white Sidewinders. For me personally, I am still trying to find some actual documentation from Schwinn as it relates to these white bikes being produced.

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Xlobsterman

I live for the CABE
I love it that you can’t admit when you were wrong and keep digging yourself deeper…. It’s so fun to watch children, just never know what they are gonna do next!

Lobsterboy is special. Very special. I hope I can be as smart as him when I grow up. 🥰🥰😘😍

I suppose it’s too late to point out the copyright date on the manual that was issued with this extremely rare never produced white sidewinder and then the date on the copy that you provided.

I am still enjoying the spectacle that is you. You are gaining quite the reputation here and elsewhere for your shenanigans on this topic and losing all credibility. Fun to watch what’s going on behind the scenes that you aren’t aware of. 🦞👶

So curious as to who purchased this one! Hope they pop in and join the conversation! Was a sweet deal for the price! Especially given they never made white ones and the manual is a forgery!!!!!

And your biggest mistake is thinking that I actually care what you think as it relates to me personally............!
 
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