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Dayton Vintage Speed

Look Ma, No Hands!
Jul 5, 2018
65
48
Dayton Ohio
A Special THANK YOU to @chitown and @Dayton Vintage Speed
for supplying valuable input and insight to this thread. Also Special
THANK YOU to
@Balloontyre for posting some Killermonjaro Fotos.
It's members like you who keep Forums like the CABE alive and kicking.


Here's the BIG PICTURE of what I have gathered from YOUR recent entries ...
Excelsior Manuf. Co. received the machinery and tooling to manufacture
bicycles, from the Davis Factory .. AND .. Shelby Manuf. Co. received the
bicycle and frame components and raw tubing and so on, from Davis.

Patric, I more took it as Excelsior bought bicycle manufacturing equipment from Huffman not Davis. I'd like to know how much the Huffman's were involved with Davis by 1922, it at all. What I gathered from the articles is that Huffman incorporated a company that was thought to be a new bicycle manufacture in July of 1922 the the following month sells off its bicycle manufacturing equipment to Excelsior. But I was always under the assumption that Huffman made and sold bicycle components until the mid 1930s when they started producing complete bicycles again. Strange for sure, but very, very interesting.
 

hoofhearted

Saint Lactose The Tolerant
Jan 20, 2010
4,228
Fairborn, Ohio
Patric, I more took it as Excelsior bought bicycle manufacturing equipment from Huffman not Davis. I'd like to know how much the Huffman's were involved with Davis by 1922, it at all. What I gathered from the articles is that Huffman incorporated a company that was thought to be a new bicycle manufacture in July of 1922 the the following month sells off its bicycle manufacturing equipment to Excelsior. But I was always under the assumption that Huffman made and sold bicycle components until the mid 1930s when they started producing complete bicycles again. Strange for sure, but very, very interesting.

At that moment in time Davis = Huffman AND Huffman = Davis.

Hell's Bells ... they were selling post 1921 H-D Bicycles right outta
the Davis factory.

Your article, Tim ... ''Davis Factory 'way Behind on Orders'' , indicates
all of the marques still being produced by Davis -- at the time the article
was published ... (we need a date for that article, please). H-D is one
of those marques.

H-D machines were rolling right out of the back door of the Davis factory --
un-be-knownst to anyone in Milwaukee. When H-D got wind of the illegal
sale ... they ordered a 1920's version of a ''cease and desist''.

Do you think that was gonna stop the Huffman family --- several hundred
miles away from Milwaukee ?? I don't think so.

A Harley-Davidson wool suit had to appear on the doorsteps of the Davis
Factory .. before those rolling, ''back-door H-D bicycles'' were stopped
from rolling.

Sadly, this typer no longer has literature to support what was just typed.
The reader is asked to tread cautiously thru my message of today.

There was FAKE NEWS back in the ''good ol' days'', too.

Same Huffman relatives connected with Davis since 1892.

Huffman family was dumping the farm.

Got in to service station equipment after waltzing away from bicycles.

LET'S PEEP SOME FAKE NEWS .....

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hoofhearted

Saint Lactose The Tolerant
Jan 20, 2010
4,228
Fairborn, Ohio
Be On The Lookout ...

20190223_214755spokane 1913 ivo early motorcycle stem ivo 1913.jpg


The above stem represents a full-size variation of a
Motorcycle Stem.


Ever seen or owned one ? How About The Miniature Version ?

The 1918 H-D single-rail juvenile bicycle Model 518 .. frame
built of lugged, 7/8'' tubing ... sporting 26'' X 1.5'' tires ... allegedly
was equipped with one of these ... but in a miniature version .....
(boy's and girl's) ... supporting a 5/8'' juvenile Shineer Handlebar.


The 1918 H-D Catalog MAY show this stem. I do not have access to the '18 H-D Catalog.

If You Have either the Full-Size Version ... or, the Miniature .... PLEASE POST A FOTO.

Thank You .....

..... patric
 

hoofhearted

Saint Lactose The Tolerant
Jan 20, 2010
4,228
Fairborn, Ohio
@Balloontyre

Good catch, Ivo !!

Dood has definitely been on the lurk, here ...
what with the tall valuation of his item in
his Ebay auction. ($180.00 - B.I.N.)


However ... Dood Lurks Like a Lamey ....
his stem has absolutely no forward exten-
sion of any kind between the circular grip
area and the ''flagpole'' itself.


And I know astute CABErs noticed the frontal
pinch feature -- so unusual on one of these
short, forward extension stems.


A true Brother / Sister of The Wheel would
not soon forget seeing one of these stems ...
adult size or juvi.


Thank you ... Ivo.
Damn, you gots the Good Eye !!


..... patric

s-l1600  stem.jpg




20190223_214755spokane 1913 ivo early motorcycle stem ivo 1913.jpg
 
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cyclingday

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 24, 2008
6,987
Costa Mesa, California. United States
I wanted to say, nice Faux Job when you originally posted it, but I thought that might be rude, and that I should wait until a few others have chimed in about it.
What’s the story on it?
It looks like the bike a local collector here built about 8 years ago.
He’s done another one, I’m not sure, if he still has that first one in his collection.
I lovingly call him, Master Faux.
 
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Foxclassics

Finally riding a big boys bike
Sep 7, 2015
398
Fairborn, OH, USA
It was from the original family in my area. I guess you could say I'm the second owner. It's all original.

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Goldenindian

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 31, 2014
819
Marinette, Wisconsin
I am of the mindset if you’re going to build a bike it should be one you could NEVER afford. I am a oil painter and these display bikes are like fine art to me. I put a lot of time and research into doing it right. Thanks for all the love!

Special thanks to all the members that helped out with the parts for the project!! The cabe is the best!!
 
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cyclingday

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 24, 2008
6,987
Costa Mesa, California. United States
Nice work!
I feel the same way about restorations.
Why restore something that can be found in original condition with relative ease?
If you are going to go to the trouble and expense, create something that is un likely to be found complete, if at all.
Paul Brody’s re creation of the 1919 Overhead Cam Excelsior is a classic example of that mind set.
 

frankster41

I live for the CABE
Dec 26, 2009
1,439
60
New Holstein, WI
Nice work!
I feel the same way about restorations.
Why restore something that can be found in original condition with relative ease?
If you are going to go to the trouble and expense, create something that is un likely to be found complete, if at all.
Paul Brody’s re creation of the 1919 Overhead Cam Excelsior is a classic example of that mind set.
Hey Marty
I raced against the first Excelsior that Brodie produced. They had some timing issues but once they got that fixed that bike was fast. Probably 10 years ago in Davenport Iowa. Flashback Fab is the website and look for "The Excelsior Project" unbelievable photos of the process. He was going to make ten machines.

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