Speedwell

[fshbydesign.com]

Not sure if anyone else counted the number of teeth 24, on the added pictures.
That may explain things - swapping one mfgr's part for another - to allow the rider to pedal easier.
And then, not too many chain rings will interface with the Emblems 2" x 1" (offset/hole) cranks.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/sprocket-compilation-pic-heavy.41683/page-8#post-913538 (2nd picture; lower crank).
So, Emblem lasted a couple of decades or so longer than Miami Ohio, what was the old-connection, if any?
I thought that 480,000 was a relatively high (later) serial number, past Miami's time (and Pierce's too).

So a snowflake type chainring? Interesting indeed. The Pierce/speedwell crank looks like a Merkel as well...

 

[fshbydesign.com]

No dogleg on my cranks

 

[fshbydesign.com]

Not sure if anyone else counted the number of teeth 24, on the added pictures.
That may explain things - swapping one mfgr's part for another - to allow the rider to pedal easier.
And then, not too many chain rings will interface with the Emblems 2" x 1" (offset/hole) cranks.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/sprocket-compilation-pic-heavy.41683/page-8#post-913538 (2nd picture; lower crank).
So, Emblem lasted a couple of decades or so longer than Miami Ohio, what was the old-connection, if any?
I thought that 480,000 was a relatively high (later) serial number, past Miami's time (and Pierce's too).

Do you know if the Speedwell chainring had a unique pitch, or was it standard for it's time? Also I don't see this bike being any newer than 1927, but I could be wrong. Thanks

 

[Archie Sturmer]

For what I know, Speedwell is another badge on Emblem-built bikes.

A 1917 Canadian catalog page, eh - what's that chain ring on the truss frame!

So perhaps the Speedwell may look good with any Emblem chain ring, the 5-petals or sand-dollar chain ring is rare to me.

 

[fshbydesign.com]

For what I know, Speedwell is another badge on Emblem-built bikes.
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A 1917 Canadian catalog page, eh. What's that chain ring on the truss frame!
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So perhaps the Speedwell may look good with any Emblem chain ring, the 5-petals or sand-dollar chain ring is rare to me.

Thanks for the info... The truss frame appears to have the same flying Merkel chainring. Do you see it? Thanks

 

[SKPC]

This looks to me like an Emblem crank arm and the advertisement shows the use of your ring as well. The Miami crankarms have a different shape where it mounts onto the ring. The Emblem snowflake ring you reference above is from my Emblem motobike with a 400,000k#. I always wondered who the makers were of these cool diamond cranks & the various ring designs back then.

 

[SKPC]

@hoofhearted @Archie Sturmer . Bump this thread. So was it determined that both Miami/Merkel and Emblem used the 2" drive pin spacing on their sprockets and cranks? Miami had quite a few different styles of both that suggest different maker/suppliers. Was it decided then that this setup (2") is correct for this particular Emblem bike?
1912-1923 Miami below.(from Flying M. site) Look closely at the differences between it and this Emblems' sprocket with the same 2" pin spacing. Thickness of spider, inner circle, etc. seem different.

 

[fshbydesign.com]

@hoofhearted @Archie Sturmer . Bump this thread. So was it determined that both Miami/Merkel and Emblem used the 2" drive pin spacing on their sprockets and cranks? Miami had a few styles of sprockets and cranks that may indicate different suppliers. So it was decided that this setup is correct for this particular Emblem bike?
1912-1923 Miami. Look closely at differences between the below Miami and the Emblem of similar look and 2" pin spacing. Thickness of spider, inner circle, etc.. from the Flying Merkel site.
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I have seen several Speed Well bikes with this chainring. I do believe they were most likely stock and provided by a supplier as I have seen these chainrings in a catalogue. When I get time I will take the chainring off and shot more photos.

 

[Archie Sturmer]

I believe that I have that 22-tooth chain ring sprocket with a dog-leg crank somewhere; (could not find it last time that I looked for it in the garage). Seems that Miami may have had different chain ring sprockets and cranks for its own different product lines, and perhaps those sold to hardware stores. Also, seems like most of Emblems chain ring sprockets look like another bicycle manufacturer’s (e.g., Excelsior).

 

[bricycle]

Well the first thing that caught my eye was the HUGE saddle frame as you mentioned.