This never happens. Old Elgin

[palepainter]

You all have been a great help. Thank you. I will get some more photos when out innthe shop. I suspect the crank is Og but the chainring has been changed from a different bike and earlier model. The front wheel was a Schwinn. I believe I have a correct front for it but not on a Muselman hub.

 

[Archie Sturmer]

Some say the Alemite grease fittings began about 1937; and they are depicted in the 1936 Golden Jubilee Sears Catalog.

In the late 1930's Sears was supplied primarily by Murray and Westfield, I believe that both of those two manufacturers also supplied bikes with the Alemite fittings. But I believe that the primary, Murray did not build double drop bar frame motorbikes; as they started in 1936 with more streamlined designs.

The truss fork, crank & sprocket, and frame, all look like Emblem Manufacturing Co., Angola NY; and there are few other examples.

Prewar Elgin | Wanted: Bikes, Trikes, Parts, Accessories, Etc.

Looking for a 26" boys straight bar Elgin bike from the mid to late 30s. Must be original paint in any condition.

thecabe.com

Sold - 1934, 35 Elgin | Archive (sold or withdrawn)

Wasn’t planning to sell but some things came up. Nice solid prewar Elgin. Rides nice!! $595 plus shipping to the lower 48.

thecabe.com

Swapping Emblem crankset parts with non-Emblem parts can be challenging, because of the fairly wider offset dimension of the drive pin, (and perhaps the shaft & cone diameters too?).

Not a whole lot is known about Emblem serial numbers, (say, compared to Murray or Westfield, etc.); but your example can be tied to the 1936-38(?) timeframe, which could help others in determining the age of their Emblem bicycles within +/-1 year, (instead of +/-10 years).

 

[palepainter]

Here are a few other photos and hopefully helps make things a bit clearer.

 

[palepainter]

Shots of rear hub.

 

[palepainter]

Perhaps the best part of this purchase.

 

[SKPC]

Upon a second look at the frame and pics, trumpets appear on the lower double bar, 500k serial number and that sprocket with 2" pin spacing are Emblem 100%. AS is correct. The typical Elgin-styled simple pinstripes are also different than the Westfield frames, in that this frame has pins all the way to the head tube junction(and crack). And as mentioned, the serial # suggests late 30's Emblem made. (400k=1930?) Hub says middle-1936. Don't see them very often, if ever. Two so far...

 

[palepainter]

Thanks, I will try finding a photo of another one this color if its out there. I appreciate the links.

 

[palepainter]

Some say the Alemite grease fittings began about 1937; and they are depicted in the 1936 Golden Jubilee Sears Catalog.

In the late 1930's Sears was supplied primarily by Murray and Westfield, I believe that both of those two manufacturers also supplied bikes with the Alemite fittings. But I believe that the primary, Murray did not build double drop bar frame motorbikes; as they started in 1936 with more streamlined designs.

The truss fork, crank & sprocket, and frame, all look like Emblem Manufacturing Co., Angola NY; and there are few other examples.

Prewar Elgin | Wanted: Bikes, Trikes, Parts, Accessories, Etc.

Looking for a 26" boys straight bar Elgin bike from the mid to late 30s. Must be original paint in any condition.

thecabe.com

Sold - 1934, 35 Elgin | Archive (sold or withdrawn)

Wasn’t planning to sell but some things came up. Nice solid prewar Elgin. Rides nice!! $595 plus shipping to the lower 48.

thecabe.com

Swapping Emblem crankset parts with non-Emblem parts can be challenging, because of the fairly wider offset dimension of the drive pin, (and perhaps the shaft & cone diameters too?).

Not a whole lot is known about Emblem serial numbers, (say, compared to Murray or Westfield, etc.); but your example can be tied to the 1936-38(?) timeframe, which could help others in determining the age of their Emblem bicycles within +/-1 year, (instead of +/-10 years).

Thanks a ton for the education and enlightenment. The links really helped.

 

[palepainter]

I think I was able to bend the fork back into shape. I’d imagine the Emblem fork is quite difficult to find.

 

[C M Gerlach]

A few pics/serial of an emblem built very similar to your elgin.....awesome hope you get it riding......I call it a 1934/35.......not too sure.